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    Default Bolts for toilet flange making toilet leveling impossible

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Size:  37.7 KBHi Folks, new to this forum, but have an issue I can't seem to find an answer to. I paid a handyman to install a new toilet flange, mainly because I wasn't sure what I was doing. I knew I could do the rest so I just wanted him to do that. The pipe coming up is 4 inches, but because it was bent inside and he could not install a 4 inch PVC flange, he went to one that looks to be a 3 inch so that it would fit. He also used something called a hammer set bolt, but it appears that the bolt did not go deep enough before setting so he just bashed it as hard as he could until the bolt heads bent. The problem here is that now, the bent bolt heads stick up about 1/4 - 1/2 inch above the rest of the flange and I cannot level the toilet because of it. I have no idea how hard it would be to get the flange and bolts out of the cement to just get a new flange, and guess what? Handyman is nowhere to be found. What are my options here?
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    Post a picture of what you really have, and you'll get a more reliable answer. An internal flange will work on a 4" pipe. Anytime the pipe is not plumb, things get messy. In concrete, usually, you need to drill for an anchor (a lead one works, but there are other types). Sometimes, you get what you pay for...now, you've got to clean up his shoddy work. Hopefully, we can help, but we need to see what you really have first.
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    I appreciate the quick response, I hope those photos help some. I had tried to put the toilet on and level it so some of the wax is still there and may make it difficult to see exactly what is going on.

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    It looks like he forced the anchor bolts down so hard that the ring was forced from the flange. The stainless part of the flange should be flush with the plastic section. Remove the anchor bolts and pull the stainless section up then get shims under that section before anchoring it to the floor.

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    I'm just a DIY'r but normally leveling is a problem with your floor and not the flange as it should have enough room on the outside to clear your bend screw/bolt. Not sure about the 3" flange though as it looks a bit small with a long slope to the hole. The trapway exit of your toilet should be flush with the outer toilet's edge or at the floor line. It might be hitting on the slope of the flange first.
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    How is the flange physically attached to the pipe in the floor? With pvc, it must be a solvent weld. There are some that use a rubber compression ring, but that doesn't look like one. That connection must be both gas and watertite.
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