What size water softener should I get (twin,single, etc...) ?

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ditttohead

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I understand your concerns, but... Plastic is it for water treatment now. Gone are the days of the 2750 valve, or the old Culligans with the exposed micro switches that would short on the enclosure if you did not remove the timer with the greatest of caution. Even the 9000 is almost a dead valve due to the introduction of the 9100. The original electro-mechanical 5000 was not a good valve, but that was over a decade ago. Same for the 8500, a great idea, but a bad valve. The plastic piston rod has been used for many years without fail. Plastic pistons and rods were frowned upon years ago, but now they are considered as good as the teflon coated brass pistons. I have been runing my 5800 test bench 24/7 at 150 PSI, just going in circles over and over again for over a month, no problem yet. This is some extreme testing for any valve, it has passed every reasonable test we have thrown at it. This is a lot more that can be said for most of the valves we test here. I am fairly confident the 5800 will be a very popular valve, and it should hold up as well as 7000, 5600 or WS1.

Re: the tabs on the 7000, we have intentionally broken them and tested the valve, no problem, but I would recommend installing the "UPS" screw if you do this. Even so, the plastic piece that you are referring to 40979 is less than $10, I would not worry too much about it.Considering the valve only needs rebuilding every 10 years or so... and since the valve has only been in the field for a little longer than a decade, we still see very few rebuilds being necessary. I only stock a few dozen rebuild kits, as opposed to the boxes of 5600 rebuild parts we stock. Then again, the 5600 has been in the field for over 30 years and it is the best selling control of all time, so a lot of companies make a good living off of rebuilding them.
 

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Wow, I didnt realize I was your employee and under you personal time constraints. Let me drop my training seminar in China right now, get back to the US to tomorrow to put together that video for you so you will be appeased. Get a life and do as Tom said, go to the movies. I will post the video when I post it. Or you could do one yourself. I will be back in town tomorrow, but since I have a Halloween light show to put on, 3 daughters and a wife, 3 hockey games for myself this week, and 12 hours of hockey practice for my 7 year old daughter, a spelling bee for my 7 year old to train for, a trade show to prep for, 2 training seminars to put on next week, travelling to Chicago at the end of the week, and a few other small commitments this week... you are slumming in a Wal Mart parking lot with plenty of time on your hand, please do it for me. Stop yer B&M'ing and wait til I get have a few minutes to put together a semi decent video.

BTW, still waiting for pictures of you and your runway model ex wife.
 

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Wow, do you really think I am going to post a training video on youtube that hasnt been modified for length and content? Most of my training seminars are customized to a particular companies brand or product line, I dont think they want me posting that information on Youtube. So what movie did you see?
 

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Sent you a PM. If you'd like, reply.


I have 7 people and 4 bathrooms with 3 high flow shower heads. What size water softener should I get? should I get a twin or a single?

I have city water so iron is not a problem and I have the following:

10gpg Hardness
PH: 7
chlorine: 0.4-0.6
 

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Wow, I didnt realize I was your employee and under you personal time constraints. Let me drop my training seminar in China right now, get back to the US to tomorrow to put together that video for you so you will be appeased. Get a life and do as Tom said, go to the movies. I will post the video when I post it. Or you could do one yourself. I will be back in town tomorrow, but since I have a Halloween light show to put on, 3 daughters and a wife, 3 hockey games for myself this week, and 12 hours of hockey practice for my 7 year old daughter, a spelling bee for my 7 year old to train for, a trade show to prep for, 2 training seminars to put on next week, travelling to Chicago at the end of the week, and a few other small commitments this week... you are slumming in a Wal Mart parking lot with plenty of time on your hand, please do it for me. Stop yer B&M'ing and wait til I get have a few minutes to put together a semi decent video.

BTW, still waiting for pictures of you and your runway model ex wife.
Like I said, we'd see if you posted any video, although in post #8 you said:
"AKPSDVAN, send me a PM if you want, I can email you a 1 minute tear down video of the 7000, it shows how to get around the "difficulty" of removing the powerhead. There are 2 ways of doing it, the way we train makes the rebuild take about a minute less than manual shows.".

And then in post #10 you said;
"I can post a link to a video on how to remove the gear assembly and rebuilding the valve. it is one of the easiets valves to rebuild and can be done by any DIY if they have a basic knowledge of basic tools.".

They were 6 days ago and all you've done since is make excuses.
 

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I think it was said best earlier, Déjà vu
 

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blah blah blah you are slumming in a Wal Mart parking lot with plenty of time on your hand, please do it for me. Stop yer B&M'ing and wait til I get have a few minutes to put together a semi decent video.

BTW, still waiting for pictures of you and your runway model ex wife.
Actually we have been in a campground in Fl since mid May.

Here is the only picture I have of us. It was taken in Holland in 1963 by a USAF buddy that visited as he was returning to the UK from a TDY assignment in Germany. We were roomies and worked together in the UK. The pic was taken as we escorted him off the (Dutch) airbase as he left to go back to England. She was the base commander's private secretary and her BIL was a fighter pilot stationed there. She knitted the sweater she's wearing, she made most of her clothes. I had a pic of her on the beach we lived on in a polka dot bikini she made when we lived in FL in 1964-65 but cant find it on this computer. I may have moved it with a lot of other files etc. to an external hard disk years ago when my stepson got rid of the compartmentalized formatting on my hard disk for me. And you've not motivated me sufficiently to go get it and hook it up to look for the pic....

So no more excuses now, post the video you promised.

The pic of the motor home was taken in a Walmart parking lot.
 

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You might want to pull that picture of "your" motor home. wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
 

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After yesterday's debacle I'm thinkin' it should have a couple, and a new camo paint job including dulling of all the shinny parts.

I note that Dittohead hasn't posted his 7000 tear down video yet, a whole week plus since he promised to do so and multiple days after I posted a picture he said incorrectly that I had promised to.
 
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I was gonna........and then I thought why bother...... It's no fun anymore, too easy I guess. ;)
 

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I am new to this forum…honestly I got tier of searching the net to get a straight input on how to set my new Fleck 5600STX 1cft (32000) water softener. I am hoping that someone will help.

My issue is that I got get the slimy water at all…it is softer than the hard water but it still leaves white residue on my stainless still sink, etc. I installed this water system over 3 months ago and put 3 bags of 40 pounds of salt, and after 3 mounts there is still approximately 20 pounds left in brine.

My system:

1) Fine mesh water softener resin

2) System Capacity set to 24000 (default)

3) Water hardness set to 20

4) BW set to 10

5) RT set to 60

6) RR set to 10

7) BF set to 10

Brine line value at 0.125 grams…should the setting be different? Based on the setting above and the info I found on internet, the salt usage is at 11.25 pound of salt per regeneration? If the system is using over 11 pounds of salt then I should be done with 120 pounds of salt in less than 2 mounts.This is not the case.

What is wrong with my system? Let me mention that I replaced old unit that was 10 years old…but it looks like this new one does not work any better and seems to me that it does not producing the same quality of soft water as I am in costume to with my old unit. Any thoughts?
 
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