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    Default Help identifying Moen shower trim kit

    I have a home that was built in 1984, and now I cannot find the brand to the shower to replace the trim kit. I got an estimate on replacing the shower valve, but that was way too expensive. I have to believe I can find a trim kit that matches this one. Any help? Or does anyone know where I can research to find this?
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    You have the older Moen Chateau shower trim. All hardware stores carry this trim.

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    I thought it was a Moen, but Home Depot's Moen trim kits didn't have the screw holes in the right place. None of them lined up. Neither did Lowes. Are there any good online retailers to look for this? Thank you so much for your help!


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    You have the older Moen Chateau shower trim. All hardware stores carry this trim.

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    This should be it at Home Depot


    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UBWLnKPAHvY

    Model # 9D00010001

    Internet # 202562814

    Store SKU # 464830

    DANCO Trim Kit for Moen Tub/Shower Faucets


    here's one from homedepot that is labeled chateau:
    http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...N#.UBWMG6PAHvY

    MOEN Chateau Single Handle Trim Kit for Posi-Temp Shower in Chrome

    Model # TL182

    Internet # 202506437

    Store SO SKU# 477898

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    There are 4 basic Moen valve/trims : Chateau teardrop shape handle, flat plate ( this is yours ); Legend round handle, bowl plate; Moentro, teardrop handle, bowl plate, screw holes different; Positemp..larger teardrop handle, plate similar to Moentrol, but handle and stop tube diameter larger.

    You should stop doing business with any store which cannot supply all four of these VERY common parts.

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    Thanks, I'll see if I can find those. I was really hoping to find an oil rubbed-bronze trim kit.

    All the ones labeled "Moen Chateau" seem to be Chrome or Brushed Nickel. All of the Moen oil rubbed bronze trim kits seem to be labeled Kingsley and Brantford. Is there some master catalog where I could find an ORB Moen Chateau trim kit? I've been scouring web sites for hours, but none of the ORB ones have the Chateau listed, so I'm worried I'll order something that won't work.

    Thank you guys for the help.



    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Schloss View Post
    This should be it at Home Depot


    http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...1#.UBWLnKPAHvY

    Model # 9D00010001

    Internet # 202562814

    Store SKU # 464830

    DANCO Trim Kit for Moen Tub/Shower Faucets


    here's one from homedepot that is labeled chateau:
    http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...N#.UBWMG6PAHvY

    MOEN Chateau Single Handle Trim Kit for Posi-Temp Shower in Chrome

    Model # TL182

    Internet # 202506437

    Store SO SKU# 477898

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    Also, how can I tell whether Chateau trim kits will fit mine since apparently mine is push-pull? Most of these don't say! I wish I knew more about this stuff!

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    http://www.moen.com/consumer-support/faq

    you have a standard, non pressure balanced valve.


    A recent innovation now makes it possible to retrofit Moentrol trim to standard valves. Service kit number 145058 (shown below) can be ordered to make the change. (from the above page)

    edited: you have the standard valve, not the posi-temp one i thought it was.
    Last edited by Chad Schloss; 07-29-2012 at 06:20 PM.

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    How did I not find this on their web site? Thank you so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Schloss View Post
    http://www.moen.com/consumer-support/faq

    you have a posi-temp (standard, non pressure balanced )valve. look for trim that fits the posi-temp valve, not the moentrol valve.

    OR:

    A recent innovation now makes it possible to retrofit Moentrol trim to standard valves. Service kit number 145058 (shown below) can be ordered to make the change. (from the above page)

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    With the service kit, any of the Kingsley or Brantley kits should work on my existing valve, right?

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    it says it fits moentrol valves. i would look for whatever you want that fits a moentrol valve & then get just the trim and get that adaptor plate. i've never used it. i'm just a diy'er, maybe the plumbers will respond to this in a bit.
    Last edited by Chad Schloss; 07-29-2012 at 06:26 PM.

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    When you want to replace trim for a valve which has been out of production for probably 10 years, your trim options become very limited. Chrome is in. Maybe some brushed nickel, the second most asked for trim finish. Any of the bronzes.....good luck, but Danco or one of the other aftermarkets may even have that one.

    You will likely NOT be able to use a bowl-shaped Moentrol trim. Your valve is too close to the finished wall surface. But worth a try.

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    You need a Moentrol trim kit and the adapter to change the bolt pattern. The Positemp is completely incompatible with your valve.
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    Thank you everyone for the words of wisdom. I'm new to this DIY lifestyle. This is my first home, so I know I have a lot to learn.

    I ordered the service kit and the Kingsley Moentrol trim kit.

    One follow-up question:

    There is some gray plastic on top of the valve. I assume that was to make it flush with the finished shower. Do I need to remove that gray plastic before attaching the service kit adapter to the valve? Or does the adapter go on top of the gray plastic?

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    The gray plastic is there to prevent the tile guy from going right up to the valve. It can be thrown away. It serves no purpose now.

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