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Thread: Is there a Made in USA toilet as good as a Toto?

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    Delta made a one-piece plastic toilet in the 70's. The shop I worked for had a red one on display. It was feather light. We never installed it, and I don't think we sold any either. It felt kind of flimsy.
    I've never felt good about plastic chairs either. There are a few more expensive and more solid ones out there. One thing I like when sitting, is something that doesn't move around underneath me. Unless it was made to be a rocker.

    What is breath-taking is how these bright and meticulous people could have built human death factories - on the surface, its the most civilized country on earth.
    That has surprised me too. Frankly I'm stunned by it. It was never logical. Leave politics out of it, and we would be the best of friends.

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    I plumb a little bit, often with about 6+ trades involved. Takes a lot of imagination, and ingenuity, Let me tell you.

    With larger pipe in dirtier places than the average plumber. Septics, filtered streambed hydro pickups [and notice the average winter flow after the completion] And finally, a few of my "tools" - you should see what concoction of pipes is under all that beautiful USA made iron! And just for "filler time" Built the house too. No subs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
    Pretty sure that Cimarron is not made in the USA.
    Yes it is, manufactured, tested, and the porcelain is made right there in Kohler, Wisconsin, USA.

    And you probably saw my other post that said about the same thing, I just wanted to reply with quote.
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    Bain Capital is not the boogey-man that this thread and the Osama Bin Obama campaign would have you believe. If Eljer and Crane were making any money, they would not have had to sell out to American Standard at fire sale prices. Fact is Eljer was selling mostly cheap toilets go HD, and we all know that manufacturers do not make any money selling to HD.

    Yes, factories were closed and jobs moved offshore. Welcome to the world. The biggest culprit is all us consumers who think we should be able to buy an $80 toilet and get top quality and performance. My hat is off to a real "buy American " guy who really walks the walk.

    My hope is that there will come a balancing of the world labor market, resulting in some resurgence of manufacturing here at home. China and India are experiencing labor issues. We will need to keep unions and the uncle sam out of the mix. A good company in the right market situation can be fair and generous to its workers, and reward a dedicated and efficient work force.

    Dont forget to VOTE.

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    Romney's Auto Bailout Bonanza
    How to make money from the auto bail out and send jobs to China.

    Of the twenty-nine Delphi plants operating in the United States when the hedge funders began buying up control, only four remain, with not a single union production worker. Romney’s “job creators” did create jobs—in China,

    Romney's Bain Investment Record: Three Times the Bankruptcies of Fed Investments

    The Wall Street Journal analyzed Bain Capital investments while Romney headed the firm. The Journal found that 22% of the companies went bankrupt within eight years.

    So that's 8% failure for government investments in alternative energy firms vs. a 22% bankruptcy record under Mitt Romney's leadership at Bain. So Bain's record is almost three times worse then the feds. So when is a 22% failure rate something to brag about?

    My Pain Is Mitt Romney's Gain: My Story as a Sensata Worker
    On Monday, November 5th Bain Capital is outsourcing my job to China. On Tuesday, November 6th I'm casting my vote against Mitt Romney.
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