Type of pump?
Submersible Unknown brand, 220V
Two wire (no control)Yes
Wire Size_________ Wire Length- ~150'
Size of Pump? unknown
Motor Horsepower? maybe 3/4 but have no info
Pump Model #______________
Date Pump Installed 1992
Pumping from?
Water Well
Depth of well 185'
Depth to water_________
Pump Setting__________
Pipe Size_________"
Drop Pipe Material
PVC________
Steel_______
Poly________
Well Recovery Rate 4+ gpm
Well Casing Diameter 6"
Rock Well
Date Well Drilled 1992
Well Casing Material
Steel to 18' then rock
Pressure Tank?
Bladder or diaphragm tank (one pipe to tank) Yes, replaced in 2/2011
Size or model of tank ____________
Air charge in top of tank, with pump off and water drained____________PSI
(check with car tire gauge)
Pressure Switch Setting?
Other- 25, 45 changed from 30-50 due to pump having difficulty making pressure.
Pump Control Method?
Cycle Stop Valve model #_________
Variable speed control #__________
Pump Start Relay (sprinkler timer, no tank)__________
Manually turned on and off____________
Pump Protection
Cycle Sensor_________
Pumptec_____________
Low pressure cutoff switch (lever on side)__________
Other None that I know of. Just the pressure switch
Filters or Softeners - both
Before or after pressure tank - after
Type of filter- GE whole house with paper filter for sediment
Bypass available for water softener which is in-line after filter.
Water Used For?
House Use, 3 baths, 4 adults, one 2 y/o
High Flow Showers - standard Moen water efficient, unknown gpm?
Problems Experienced
No Water_________________
Water only part time _______
Water at all times but weak_____
Air in water_______________
Pressure surging___________
Water Hammer (noise)______
Too Much pressure_________
Other - Intermittent low pressure and unable to hold pressure there is.
Pump makes clicking or buzzing sounds________
No Sounds______________
Pressure gauge reading________psi
Other____________________________________
Do you have, and know how to use
an Ampmeter and Voltmeter - Some knowledge, volt meter no problem, ampmeter with some direction should be fine.
Describe Problem
I have family visiting, an extra 5 people. After the first day and 4 or 5 back to back and simultaneous showers and a couple of loads of laundry after dinner we had no water pressure, pressure gauge below pressure switch said 0, even after tap test. I flipped the breaker off and then checked contacts on pressure switch. They were closed. I went ahead and removed the wires (2 wire, 220V) to the pump. Flipped the breaker on and had 220 at the switch. Had 220 at the other contacts where the motor wires go. Turned breaker back off and installed the wires to the pressure switch and turned on the breaker. Water pressure climbed to about 20 lbs and then stopped. After a few minutes pressure rapidly dropped back to zero, within seconds, no water running in the house. Tried it a few more times same result. Walked away to do research on the issue. After leaving it alone for an hour or so I tried again. Pressure climbed to 30 and held. It wouldn't get high enough to open the contacts on the pressure switch which is normally open at 50 and close at 30. Ran some water through it and then flipped the breaker off, water pressure held. After some more time it would climb to 40 but still not open the switch. I let the pressure pump up then flipped the breaker to not burn something up. I do not understand why the pressure was not holding earlier. I have a check valve below the pressure switch and pressure gauge. I assume that I also have a valve at the pump down in the hole. I did tap the check valve I can see with the end of my screwdriver but don't know if that helped. After reading on this forum I understand that there is a persuasive argument that there should only be one check valve at the pump. The rational holds water with me, if you will pardon the pun.
The next morning I tried the pump again by turning on the breaker. The pressure had held at ~40 through the night with the breaker in the off position as I was first up and no one had used water since I turned it off. The pump seems to be working a bit better. The pressure is holding and the pump is cutting on and off. I backed off the cutout pressure to ~45 and the cut in to ~28. It has continued to work for the last 2 days. I have asked guest to think "conserve" as they go through the day. But we are still taking 6 showers spread out through the day, multiple loads of dishes and laundry. I have watched the pressure pretty closely and see no obvious issues. Pressure climbs to 45 and holds, turn on at ~28, holds pressure with pressure switch contacts open.
The well was dug in 92. Pump is original, installed in 92. Well info says it is 185'. I haven't had any problems with it since I moved in in 95. I believe it is a 3/4 hp pump. It uses a pitless but not sure how deep yet as I haven't opened the casing. I am also not sure of the drop piupe but assume it is black roll pipe. Well is about 90' from the house. Pressure tank, Pressure Switch, vertical check valve, filter and water softener are all in a mechanical room off of the garage in a walk out basement. 3/4 rigid copper comes in through the concrete basement floor and into the pressure tank/pressure switch. This is the second well for this house so I do not know how it is all connected outside as I did not own the house then.
I plan on replacing the pump this summer after guests leave, mid July. I figure I have equal chance that the pump will last another year or another day. Either way it is time. I do not want to have to replace in the winter in Alaska.
I am sorry for the length but wanted to try and supply some information. Please let me know if you need more. I will also research and try and answer some of th emissing quesions. Thanks in advance, AlasKen
Submersible Unknown brand, 220V
Two wire (no control)Yes
Wire Size_________ Wire Length- ~150'
Size of Pump? unknown
Motor Horsepower? maybe 3/4 but have no info
Pump Model #______________
Date Pump Installed 1992
Pumping from?
Water Well
Depth of well 185'
Depth to water_________
Pump Setting__________
Pipe Size_________"
Drop Pipe Material
PVC________
Steel_______
Poly________
Well Recovery Rate 4+ gpm
Well Casing Diameter 6"
Rock Well
Date Well Drilled 1992
Well Casing Material
Steel to 18' then rock
Pressure Tank?
Bladder or diaphragm tank (one pipe to tank) Yes, replaced in 2/2011
Size or model of tank ____________
Air charge in top of tank, with pump off and water drained____________PSI
(check with car tire gauge)
Pressure Switch Setting?
Other- 25, 45 changed from 30-50 due to pump having difficulty making pressure.
Pump Control Method?
Cycle Stop Valve model #_________
Variable speed control #__________
Pump Start Relay (sprinkler timer, no tank)__________
Manually turned on and off____________
Pump Protection
Cycle Sensor_________
Pumptec_____________
Low pressure cutoff switch (lever on side)__________
Other None that I know of. Just the pressure switch
Filters or Softeners - both
Before or after pressure tank - after
Type of filter- GE whole house with paper filter for sediment
Bypass available for water softener which is in-line after filter.
Water Used For?
House Use, 3 baths, 4 adults, one 2 y/o
High Flow Showers - standard Moen water efficient, unknown gpm?
Problems Experienced
No Water_________________
Water only part time _______
Water at all times but weak_____
Air in water_______________
Pressure surging___________
Water Hammer (noise)______
Too Much pressure_________
Other - Intermittent low pressure and unable to hold pressure there is.
Pump makes clicking or buzzing sounds________
No Sounds______________
Pressure gauge reading________psi
Other____________________________________
Do you have, and know how to use
an Ampmeter and Voltmeter - Some knowledge, volt meter no problem, ampmeter with some direction should be fine.
Describe Problem
I have family visiting, an extra 5 people. After the first day and 4 or 5 back to back and simultaneous showers and a couple of loads of laundry after dinner we had no water pressure, pressure gauge below pressure switch said 0, even after tap test. I flipped the breaker off and then checked contacts on pressure switch. They were closed. I went ahead and removed the wires (2 wire, 220V) to the pump. Flipped the breaker on and had 220 at the switch. Had 220 at the other contacts where the motor wires go. Turned breaker back off and installed the wires to the pressure switch and turned on the breaker. Water pressure climbed to about 20 lbs and then stopped. After a few minutes pressure rapidly dropped back to zero, within seconds, no water running in the house. Tried it a few more times same result. Walked away to do research on the issue. After leaving it alone for an hour or so I tried again. Pressure climbed to 30 and held. It wouldn't get high enough to open the contacts on the pressure switch which is normally open at 50 and close at 30. Ran some water through it and then flipped the breaker off, water pressure held. After some more time it would climb to 40 but still not open the switch. I let the pressure pump up then flipped the breaker to not burn something up. I do not understand why the pressure was not holding earlier. I have a check valve below the pressure switch and pressure gauge. I assume that I also have a valve at the pump down in the hole. I did tap the check valve I can see with the end of my screwdriver but don't know if that helped. After reading on this forum I understand that there is a persuasive argument that there should only be one check valve at the pump. The rational holds water with me, if you will pardon the pun.
The next morning I tried the pump again by turning on the breaker. The pressure had held at ~40 through the night with the breaker in the off position as I was first up and no one had used water since I turned it off. The pump seems to be working a bit better. The pressure is holding and the pump is cutting on and off. I backed off the cutout pressure to ~45 and the cut in to ~28. It has continued to work for the last 2 days. I have asked guest to think "conserve" as they go through the day. But we are still taking 6 showers spread out through the day, multiple loads of dishes and laundry. I have watched the pressure pretty closely and see no obvious issues. Pressure climbs to 45 and holds, turn on at ~28, holds pressure with pressure switch contacts open.
The well was dug in 92. Pump is original, installed in 92. Well info says it is 185'. I haven't had any problems with it since I moved in in 95. I believe it is a 3/4 hp pump. It uses a pitless but not sure how deep yet as I haven't opened the casing. I am also not sure of the drop piupe but assume it is black roll pipe. Well is about 90' from the house. Pressure tank, Pressure Switch, vertical check valve, filter and water softener are all in a mechanical room off of the garage in a walk out basement. 3/4 rigid copper comes in through the concrete basement floor and into the pressure tank/pressure switch. This is the second well for this house so I do not know how it is all connected outside as I did not own the house then.
I plan on replacing the pump this summer after guests leave, mid July. I figure I have equal chance that the pump will last another year or another day. Either way it is time. I do not want to have to replace in the winter in Alaska.
I am sorry for the length but wanted to try and supply some information. Please let me know if you need more. I will also research and try and answer some of th emissing quesions. Thanks in advance, AlasKen