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    Trying to see if pictures downloaded ....
    If so questions to follow

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    And the question is?

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    I don't know what your question is, but, I love your fireplace, it is very pretty.

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    First off sorry for the pic being so big !
    Ok trying to post up next picture, hope it not too small ???

    Ok we removed the rock /drywall and now looking at frame work and an open cavity with fireplace metal flue . Inside the garage it is boxed out abit for the fireplace.
    The drywall came off in chunks with the rock/concrete.

    Can we simply re drywall to the edge of the fireplace , then put up a mantel ? or does there need to be other material put up ???

    We are going to have a flat panel tv mounted up above the fireplace .. And if we ever do have another fire in the fireplace it will only be a duraflame log...

    I thought I could move the 5 short studs back enough to nail in about 1/3 sheet of 3/4 in plywood , add insulation where I could , then have the drywall installed.
    So when its all down I'll have a solid area to bolt the tv mount to , instead of like most tv mounts you get one stud and have to molly-screw the other side ...

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    The only insulation that was there were between the the studs I'm talking about wanting to move back enough to nail in the plywood.
    There was no insulation in back/sides of the flue . Can I put up some insulation around the inside walls where the metal baffle/reducer tapers down/up to the flue going up. I know I wouldn't put any insulation lower than that...

    Thanks for any input
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    My experience has been that they do NOT recommend mounting a TV over a fireplace, unless it will NEVER be used for a fire of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hj View Post
    My experience has been that they do NOT recommend mounting a TV over a fireplace, unless it will NEVER be used for a fire of any kind.
    I agree, but if you can find an attractive fireplace hood/canopy, it can deflect the heat enough to "spill over" up far enough away from the TV (maybe). Personally, I would not do it, as flat panel large screen TVs are still rather expensive even with the prices having dropped. Nice look though.
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    First off, you have a load of questions and before you race off building your next project you need to hit the brakes and do some homework.

    It appears to me that the stand offs to your fireplace have been removed or they are just so tiny I can not see them. Can you upload more pictures of the fireplace and the exact make and model. I'm looking for V Shaped pieces on the top, back and side of your fireplace. This make and model information will be on the lighter tag under the fireplace near the pilot lighter. Is that unit burning gas even? Might be an A vent or wood burning. ???

    Once we have that we can then answer the drywall question. The insulation question and the rest.

    I have been building fireplace features longer than I have showers and there is a lot of safe guards you can preform to achieve some safety points in regards to mounting a TV above the fireplace.

    Drywall many times is not permitted above your fireplace, most units require 8"-24" of a non combustable material above and many require non combustable material 2"-6" on the sides but not all.

    Each fireplace will have a specification for mantle project. This is key to observe and the safety of your home and TV will improve or reduce depending on how well you follow this information.

    Do you have an end look in mind?

    If you visit www.houzz.com you can browse through tons of examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple View Post
    First off, you have a load of questions and before you race off building your next project you need to hit the brakes and do some homework.

    It appears to me that the stand offs to your fireplace have been removed or they are just so tiny I can not see them. Can you upload more pictures of the fireplace and the exact make and model. I'm looking for V Shaped pieces on the top, back and side of your fireplace. This make and model information will be on the lighter tag under the fireplace near the pilot lighter. Is that unit burning gas even? Might be an A vent or wood burning. ???

    Once we have that we can then answer the drywall question. The insulation question and the rest.

    I have been building fireplace features longer than I have showers and there is a lot of safe guards you can preform to achieve some safety points in regards to mounting a TV above the fireplace.

    Drywall many times is not permitted above your fireplace, most units require 8"-24" of a non combustable material above and many require non combustable material 2"-6" on the sides but not all.

    Each fireplace will have a specification for mantle project. This is key to observe and the safety of your home and TV will improve or reduce depending on how well you follow this information.

    Do you have an end look in mind?

    If you visit www.houzz.com you can browse through tons of examples.

    JW
    IF that heatilator fireplace is a zero clearance unit, are those standoffs still required? Just asking. Last Heatilator unit I installed was in 1973 and I surrounded it in masonry. with just some fiberglass blanketing it came with. That heatilator weighed a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple View Post
    First off, you have a load of questions and before you race off building your next project you need to hit the brakes and do some homework.

    It appears to me that the stand offs to your fireplace have been removed or they are just so tiny I can not see them. Can you upload more pictures of the fireplace and the exact make and model. I'm looking for V Shaped pieces on the top, back and side of your fireplace. This make and model information will be on the lighter tag under the fireplace near the pilot lighter. Is that unit burning gas even? Might be an A vent or wood burning. ???

    Ok when we removed the rock the drywall came off with the rock what you see in the pictures is what was behind the rock ,the only thing I removed were 4 pieces of insulation between the header piece up top and the next horizontal 2x4 below it.
    Make is a Heatilator wood burning only #'s that I could find were 479 #F360625 MARK 123 30380A on a tag riveted to the inside lip.
    I went to their web site punched in the #'s and nothing came up.

    Once we have that we can then answer the drywall question. The insulation question and the rest.

    I have been building fireplace features longer than I have showers and there is a lot of safe guards you can preform to achieve some safety points in regards to mounting a TV above the fireplace.

    Drywall many times is not permitted above your fireplace, most units require 8"-24" of a non combustable material above and many require non combustable material 2"-6" on the sides but not all.

    I wasn't sure if I could have the drywall come up just to the outside of the metal frame of the fireplace ...?

    Each fireplace will have a specification for mantle project. This is key to observe and the safety of your home and TV will improve or reduce depending on how well you follow this information.

    I couldn't find anything on that from their website or ?

    Do you have an end look in mind?

    Basically , have it dry-walled with a mantel w/some type of tile ? around fireplace and have the TV mounted above..


    If you visit www.houzz.com you can browse through tons of examples.

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    I'll try to post up more pictures...

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    Ok hopefully these will help more ??
    I know on the flue pipe going up it has stickers on it saying Maintain A Min. 2in Clearance To Combustibles

    I tried answering questions in your quote...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    IF that heatilator fireplace is a zero clearance unit, are those standoffs still required? Just asking. Last Heatilator unit I installed was in 1973 and I surrounded it in masonry. with just some fiberglass blanketing it came with. That heatilator weighed a lot.
    I'm hoping this falls into that same category ??

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    Stand Off's look like this;



    Perhaps you can see these on your fireplace???



    Wood framing can not be installed below these stand offs. Many units have them on the back and sides as well. Some times installers fail to install them so you need to find the origianl installation guide for use.

    I looked quickly and found this guide but it is not the same unit.

    http://hearthnhome.com/downloads/ins...s/4072_137.pdf

    Check out page 18 for a little basic information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abouthadit View Post
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    Ok hopefully these will help more ??
    I know on the flue pipe going up it has stickers on it saying Maintain A Min. 2in Clearance To Combustibles

    I tried answering questions in your quote...

    Sorry tried to delete one of the same pics didn't work ??
    You may be able to build a recess box for your tv mount if it can fit between those Jack studs. The two waffled pipes left and right are most likely the air intake vents and the center pipe just exhaust. You will need to keep combustables 2" off of that. We have built units where the back side is wrapped in concrete board for added safety.

    Check out this fireplace. We just wrapped it up three months back.

    It's new everything!





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    johnfr has obviously done this before, so I would pay attention. He astutely points out that there are more questions than answers right now, and you need to settle all that before you start pouring money in. Besides the question of exactly what flammable clearances YOUR fireplace and YOUR building code requires, there is still the TV. Given the price of these puppies, I would check the warranty provisions. And if you purchased an extened warranty, check those papers as well.

    I view large electronics like a flat screen as non-repairable, meaning if anything goes wrong, the cost of a repair would be well over half the cost of an brand new unit. I do purchase the 3 year warranty on these. I generally DON"T do extended warranties. I self-insure on appliances, etc. But on big screens and computers, I do. Not everyone would agree.

    ANYWAY, back to the TV. They do have specs about how close to the ceiling it can be mounted, and in general are concerned about heat. Check it out.\

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    My sister had her plasma TV installed above the fireplace, and personally, I find it VERY annoying. People just don't like to look up for long periods of time - it's not in our nature or anatomy! While it might seem to be a good place for it (heat excepted), personally, I'd find another.
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