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    Default Two questions re: 75 gallon WH replacement

    I have to replace a 10-year-old 75 gallon WH that's leaking and would like some "expert advice" on two things:

    1. If I have relatively easy access to the heater, could installation be a DIY job for one person? I've replaced a 40 gallon WH before by myself but I have no idea how much a 75 gallon WH weighs!

    2. Is the Sears unit I've picked out a top choice for a replacement: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...3176000P?mv=rr? It's got two magnesium anodes, 81 gph recovery at 90 degree rise, a 12 year limited warranty on parts and tank and is selling for $850. I'm going to be in the house for a long time and want a reliable unit. But it doesn't get a lot of use, since my wife and I are empty-nesters with occasional guests. It's sized mostly to enable my wife to take a bath in her large soaking tub.

    Thanks for any advice you can give me!

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    Weights on 75 gallon water heaters are in the 240-300lbs range- roughly 2x or more than the heft of a 40 gallon unit (120-140lbs). Been working out?

    If it's all level ground and you have an adequate hand truck for moving it around you may be able to get it into place. I managed to get a ~325lb reverse-indirect HW heater into my house down 8 concrete steps to the basement door off the driveway by myself, but that took some ramp-design and a rigging a belaying system, and couple of hours of figuring it out. (You may not be as crazy as I am. :-) ) Getting it out would be a bit tougher than getting it in.

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    Thanks for the prompt reply, Dana. I HAVE been working out and I AM probably as crazy as you when it comes to doing things myself. But hearing what this puppy weighs, I think I'll let the pros handle it. They'll pull a permit on it, cart the old one away and stand behind any problems that arise, too. What with tax, permit, etc., the installation will add about $450.

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    quote; What with tax, permit, etc., the installation will add about $450.

    It would be a rare 75 gallon gas water heater that would be installed that cheaply in this area. $85.00 tax, $90.00 permit, etc., then a two man crew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montalvo View Post
    Thanks for the prompt reply, Dana. I HAVE been working out and I AM probably as crazy as you when it comes to doing things myself. But hearing what this puppy weighs, I think I'll let the pros handle it. They'll pull a permit on it, cart the old one away and stand behind any problems that arise, too. What with tax, permit, etc., the installation will add about $450.
    the sears units are basically junk..
    it will be installed by sub contractors for sears....

    the water heater will cost you about 790

    the installation sounds dog dirt cheap...
    and I would not trust them....


    you ought to look into a Rheem pro or
    a bradford white before you are stuck with
    that pos..

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    Quote Originally Posted by master plumber mark View Post
    the sears units are basically junk..
    it will be installed by sub contractors for sears....

    the water heater will cost you about 790

    the installation sounds dog dirt cheap...
    and I would not trust them....


    you ought to look into a Rheem pro or
    a bradford white before you are stuck with
    that pos..
    Thanks for your frank opinion, Mark. I Googled Rheem and found a commercial 75 gallon WH, model 42VP75FW. The cheapest price was $435 MORE than the Sears one I described AND the one review relates a rather unflattering result:

    "Our new water heater is only 2 years old, and is leaking already. It's nice to know it is covered under warranty, however, having to spend $500.00 for the new installation, just doesn't seems right. This is my first experience with Rheem, and if I did not have to replace this with a like product for warranty reason, I surely would not."

    http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Rheem+75+gallon+water+heater&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9761425719053984938&sa=X&ei=O_SET5b KLYafiQfs7ojIBw&ved=0CJQBEPMCMAI

    I'm sure that ALL manufacturers' water heaters can have problems and, as this review suggests, a warranty ISN'T a guarantee you won't have difficulties. But I think I'm gonna take a chance on the Sears, notwithstanding you opinion of their product and installation.

    Bob

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    Mark is a little harsh. The brand sold by sears ( manufactured by AO Smith family of water heater brands, probably State or American, possibly Craftmaster or Reliant) has had some issues, mainly design rather than quality related, since the advent of FVIR. Since your 75 gallon now also falls into the FVIR catefegory, I would consider that issue. Rheem and Bradford White came out of the gate with a better design. Both of them have excellent quality reputations. Do they have an occasional lemon.? Can happen. In general, any water heater which fails in two years,..you need to look for other issues, either water chemistry, or electrical system issues in the building.

    Yes, you will pay more for another brand, and you will pay somewhat more for the install. You get what you pay for. A box store will quote you a very low install price, but since the installer makes so little on that, they will upsell you on "not included" necessities or "upgrades to code". No free lunch out there.

    You should ask around your town and find out who has an excellent reputation for doing warranty service.... if that is sears, that would be a plus. If it is one of the local contractors who has the best rep...that is important to consider.

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