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    Great links! Thanks a lot ballvalve. These links will keep me busy for a time to come! And thanks to you too Smooky.

    Quote Originally Posted by ballvalve View Post
    The rope and bucket will kill you quick, but it works - and better with a flapper on the bottom, then you can use lightweight pipe or tube. But if one goes to the Bennet website, you will see how cheap windmill parts are, and you can buy a windmill cylinder of small diameter that even your kid can pump. Or build one with a few check valves and leftover pipe.

    http://deanbennett.com/cylinder.htm

    Then there are pump jacks which can be both your primary and secondary system:

    http://deanbennett.com/pumpjacks.htm

    Finally for you SMART preppers, one should have a copy of De Re Metallica, by Agricola. You can get the Dover translation for 30 bucks. I collect mining books and have the 2nd and 3rd editions from the late 1500's. Bought them cheap in Eastern Europe before anyone knew they go for 6 to 10++ grand in the US. The first edition is now about 25,000$.... anyway, its the worlds FIRST and best illustrated technical book - It has pumps in it that make us all look stupid today. Fun to read the translation with the original in Latin next to it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_re_metallica

    And for real pump enthusiasts, you have to read a book on "Cornish Pumps" the most amazing monstrous pumps ever built. Many were in Virgina city in the silver mines.

    http://www.exploringthenorth.com/cornish/pump.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudefromtampa View Post
    More good ideas. Thanks Gary. Are you near Sedona?
    I think Sedona is a bit north of us but not sure. We are presently in Blythe CA having our rubber roof redone. That's just across the line of western AZ on I-10. We leave here tomorrow to go pack up our stuff in the desert south of Quartzsite AZ on BML land and go east on our way to FL for next winter. Might only make it to friends in the Piney Woods of east TX on Caddo Lake though. A fair place to hunker down I think.

    That pipe she is pouring bleach down every so often, has to be your 6" well casing and she should stop doing that. She is rusting the steel casing and really bad if she isn't washing it down with fresh water out of a hose before the bleach gets down to the water entering the pump. Bleach/chlorine with certain organics in the water can create carcinogens... called Trihalomethanes.
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    I live in a motor home, currently in AZ out in the desert, so I haven't put a lot of thought in to your type of prepping but I'm prepped as much as I can be with such limited space etc. but... a concrete septic tank buried in the yard to store water in would be something I'd look into.
    Blythe? the armpit of America with no water? And Texas, in the drought? You prepping would need to be an AK47 to get the neighbors water after that months worth of tank water ran out. And if this system implodes, wherever you maybe driving is where you will stay, because all that gas will be gone, [maybe on highway 5 half way to Lost vegas?] and those gensets will shut down in a month. You cannot practically store gasoline. Perhaps some cyanide capsules would be a good backup.

    I watch that prepper show and I get sick. I built two huge underground structures, 12" thick concrete roof with 4' of dirt cover.
    But I did it for wine, and another smaller one for garden stuff and canned foods. All I see happening is earthquakes or weather or some nuclear plant popping, and having to survive without pulling someones hair at the Walmart. The guns go all the way back to granpa. My full time stream is the ultimate survival item, except it makes one a target for the thirsties that just drove in from Sedona.
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    From what I am told, and I have pretty good references, the key (in our near future, will be in Sedona. Not entirely sure what that means..but I have a few thoughts on it.

    In reference to the well-casing..thanks a ton for the knowledge. Will talk to my wife on what you've told me. She's taught me a lot on how to live out here in the country. It'll be cool to be able to teach her something.

    Best of luck on your travels. I just left Florida not too long ago. Not sure I'd want to be out there when the SHTF though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slusser View Post
    I think Sedona is a bit north of us but not sure. We are presently in Blythe CA having our rubber roof redone. That's just across the line of western AZ on I-10. We leave here tomorrow to go pack up our stuff in the desert south of Quartzsite AZ on BML land and go east on our way to FL for next winter. Might only make it to friends in the Piney Woods of east TX on Caddo Lake though. A fair place to hunker down I think.

    That pipe she is pouring bleach down every so often, has to be your 6" well casing and she should stop doing that. She is rusting the steel casing and really bad if she isn't washing it down with fresh water out of a hose before the bleach gets down to the water entering the pump. Bleach/chlorine with certain organics in the water can create carcinogens... called Trihalomethanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudefromtampa View Post
    If I went the hand-to-bucket route, I'd need to dig a wider opening obviously.
    You just use a smaller bucket. Mine has 5 casing. So I plan on a length of 4 PVC pipe with a weighted trap door on the bottom. This would be very similar to steel bailers I have made many times before. A tall A frame above the well with a pulley will allow a fairly long 4 pipe to be lifted out. I am guessing every time I send the kids 60 across the yard with the rope, it will bring up about 3 gallons. Not fancy, but I have seen a picture of my ancestors with just such a water supply.

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    Here is a link to a bucket that will go in a 4 inch well. The bucket has a special leak-proof valve on the bottom of the bucket that opens to fill the bucket from the bottom. The valve closes automatically when the bucket is drawn up. I have one made smaller, about an inch and a half in diameter and made of plastic. It was used to take water samples from small diameter test wells.

    http://www.lehmans.com/store/Water__...__550202?Args=

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