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    Default Moen Shower-Tub Faucet Installed Wrong???

    When our house was built in 2003 the plumber installed two Moen faucets in the two bathrooms. Both control handles stick out too far IMHO and per the Moen catalog photos. I asked the plumber at the time about it and he tried to fix them but couldn't figure out what was wrong. As you can see one is worse. Both have hard water, and that's a week after cleaning!

    Any suggestions???? Here are two photos one of each control. Thanks for your help.

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    Depends if the valves are mounted to the framing or "floating" with the mounting plate.

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    The second one actually doesn't look too bad. You remove the Allan screw from the handle. (bet it's gonna' fight you) Remove the handle. Might be a funny looking disc underneath. Black plastic or brass. Can't remember. If it is, take it off.

    Then remove the screws that hold the plate. Remove the plate.

    Look inside the wall with a flashlight and/or see if the valve can move in and out. Might be a plastic mounting plate on the back. If the valve moves, then you might be able to make up a spacer to make the valve mount further back in the wall.

    If it is already mounted firmly to the framing, odds are you will not be able to move it. It would likely be more difficult than it is worth. And if it has a tub spout you will have to adjust it's length and mount. Also might not make it worthwhile.

    Car Wax works good on chrome.
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    Default Thanks for the help

    I'll give your idea a shot. I usually use A-maz products to clean everything. http://http://www.a-maz.com/



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    QUOTE=Plumber111;333605]The second one actually doesn't look too bad. You remove the Allan screw from the handle. (bet it's gonna' fight you) Remove the handle. Might be a funny looking disc underneath. Black plastic or brass. Can't remember. If it is, take it off.

    Then remove the screws that hold the plate. Remove the plate.

    Look inside the wall with a flashlight and/or see if the valve can move in and out. Might be a plastic mounting plate on the back. If the valve moves, then you might be able to make up a spacer to make the valve mount further back in the wall.

    If it is already mounted firmly to the framing, odds are you will not be able to move it. It would likely be more difficult than it is worth. And if it has a tub spout you will have to adjust it's length and mount. Also might not make it worthwhile.

    Car Wax works good on chrome. [/QUOTE]

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    This comment comes up often...the manufacturer's viewpoint is if the trim fits, it's okay. They have a min/max, and if it's installed so it will fit, it isn't a problem. As you've discovered, the asthetics may not be to your liking, but based on the installation instructions, it IS okay. The next time, mock it up first, decide where YOU want it, then ensure the plumber installs it there. To change it now, you'd have to move the rough-in valve in the wall back so it doesn't stick out as far. That may or may not be easy. It's easier if you have an access panel so you can get to the valve in the wall from behind. Recommendation, leave it as it is and address it with the plumber when you decide to replace the guts. There are probably trim kits still available, but you'd have the same thing unless the valve is moved. At least it would look better to you!
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    I hit the rough in in the middle. Some higher end valves are designed to have the stems cut off.

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