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    DIY Senior Member jch's Avatar
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    Question Recommended shower install materials??

    I'm in western Canada (Victoria), so I'm looking for advice about products available here.

    Been reading the posts about Kerdi here and on John Bridge and I'm getting overwhelmed.... Been to Big Orange and some contractor tile places and the number of choices is staggering!

    For a first-timer like me, specifically what brands would you recommend I use for materials in a simple tiled shower (no niches, but with tiled sloped ceiling, rafters 24" OC)?

    i.e. which brands of:
    • Wallboard,
    • fasteners,
    • tape
    • tape mud,
    • waterproofing,
    • tile-setting thinset (for 12"x4" tiles, plus 1"x2" glass mosaic strip), and
    • grout


    Appreciate any *specific* help you could share. Once I've got specific recommendations, I'll go look up the specific installation instructions on the manufacturers' sites.

    Thanks!
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    John -

    It's not the brands but the process...
    Non Shower area - sheetrock treatment is fine.

    Shower - Wet Wall Area - any concrete board of choice , denshield, hardiback

    Some caulk between the joints of CBU.
    I've always just used a alkai resistent tape and thinset

    Don't use drywall mud for the shower area.

    Waterproofing - Look at both liquid and sheet membranes. FWIW, I'm doing my next project with liquid and certain area like the niche, I plan to use sheet and liquid. Maybe overkill but I tend to build solid like a rock. (Carpenter was cursing up a storm when I had him change the RO for a interior door recently that I built out years ago) ......

    Grout and thinset is subjective but Laticrete and Mapei are fine brands I prefer.
    KEY advice. ALWAYS check the date /batch codeof your product. Make sure it's fresh IMO.
    Grout- you ideally want them of the same batch code

    Grout - Epoxy all the way for me. Cost more (labors just the same to me IMHO). Most epoxy grouts have a less than 1% absorption rate.
    If you plan on white, you may NOT want epoxy just due to color

    YMMV. Good luck
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    I prefer a surface membrane, whether a sheet or liquid...it just leaves much less that can get wet in a shower. Whatever you choose, you must use good workmanship. A conventional liner shower will work, too, but surface waterproofing has its advantages. 24" OC ceiling may be a problem...some stuff can handle it, some can't, so read the instructions carefully. You could using strapping and possibly some intermediate supports to narrow that 24" OC if required, but it might lower the ceiling, leaving a step, depending on method used. one person's experience/predjudice should not make your definitive decision for you...lots of people have used and created successful showers with each of the available methods out there...some are easier for the first timer and I have my preferences, but that's one person's opinion, too.
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    So how about if I use 2x6 blocking (with the 6" face against the ceiling) to span those 24" rafters?

    Big Orange only carries a limited number of products, and pro tile shops seem to carry a dizzying array of products.

    That's why I'm asking for specific recommendations for a newbie like myself.

    Thanks!
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    Sorry--should have mentioned that this will be a cast iron built-in tub (Kohler Villager) with shower head...

    If I go to a pro tiling store instead (which is often cheaper than Big Orange), would that change your recommendations? I'm in BC.

    Thanks!
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    i.e. which brands of:

    Wallboard, Permabase
    fasteners, Roofing Nails
    tape Fiberglass or stucco mesh
    tape mud, Thinset
    waterproofing, Kerdi with Kerdi Drain or Aquadefense with divot method
    tile-setting thinset (for 12"x4" tiles, plus 1"x2" glass mosaic strip), and
    grout Customs Versabond for thinset, SpectraLock or Truclolor for grout
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    Quote Originally Posted by jch View Post
    Sorry--should have mentioned that this will be a cast iron built-in tub (Kohler Villager) with shower head...

    If I go to a pro tiling store instead (which is often cheaper than Big Orange), would that change your recommendations? I'm in BC.

    Thanks!

    If your just doing a tub surround then permabase walls, thinset and tape your joints and corners with fiberglass mesh tape. Water proof with Aquadefense on the corners and seems. You don't have to go all crazy with the water proofing on a tub surround. I like spectralock expoxy grout, trucolor urethane grout is good too, but less forgiving.
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