(206) 949-5683, Top Rated Plumber, Seattle
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: tank gas water heater questions (quality and brand comparisons)...

  1. #1
    DIY Senior Member k9mlxj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Bay Area CA
    Posts
    100

    Default tank gas water heater questions (quality and brand comparisons)...

    Hi all,

    Have a couple of gas water heater-related questions:


    1. Just wonder about those ultra low NOx gas water heaters on the market today.


    HD seems to be phasing out the low-NOx gas water heaters and bringing in a lot of ultra-low NOx units instead. Definitely higher price (25% more). Is the ultra-low-NOx worth the higher price?

    How's the quality like for the ultra-low NOx heaters? Are they as reliable as the low-NOx gas water heaters? I overheard there're complications and quality problems -- not sure if they're still around now.


    2. Which gas water heater brand is more reliable? I have GE, Whirlpool 6th sense and Kenmore in mind.


    3. Electronic ignition.

    My good old gas water heater still needs a match for the ignition--but is working fine. It's is aging so I might eventually need to replace it.

    I noticed some complain about the current Piezo electronic ignition system. Is it reliable (seems to be what many heaters are using these days)?



    Thx... .
    Last edited by k9mlxj; 11-15-2011 at 12:23 PM.

  2. #2
    Plumber jimbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    9,001

    Default

    If you are in the following California air quality managment districts: SCAQMD, BAAQMD, YSAQMD, SJVAPCD then the ONLY water heater which can legally be sold or installed is the ULTRA low nox. They run about $100 more than a regular lo-nox.

    Stay away from Whirlpool ( google for class action lawsuit, etc.). Tops are Bradford White, Rheem. GE is made by Rheem.

  3. #3
    In the Trades Gary Swart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Yakima WA
    Posts
    7,246

    Default

    You should also keep in mind Kenmore appliances are made by various manufacturers for Sears. Very often these are a fairly low quality brand. The brands mentioned by Jimbo are the preferred brands. Bradford White is supposedly sold only to plumbers, but I think that rule is not always followed.

  4. #4
    Master Plumber master plumber mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    indianapolis indiana - land of the free, home of the brave....
    Posts
    4,244
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default go to my web site

    go to weilhammerplumbing.com for some info on heaters

  5. #5
    DIY Senior Member k9mlxj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Bay Area CA
    Posts
    100

    Default

    I'm in the Bay Area (BAAQMD). Was looking for GE (made by Rheem) a bit ago but on HD site there seem to be complaints on leaks within a few years in some units and also the electronic Piezo ignition seems not starting the pilot light easily... . Anyone has seen this, or perhaps those might have been just a few exceptions?



    My older GE gas water heater though has worked flawlessly for the past 10 years since installation by a plumber. Never had to make a service call.

    It did start to leak slightly recently when I turned temperature to a bit over 140F. I lowered the temperature a bit and the leak stopped.

    Don't know how the temperature would cause a leak... ?


    * Are GE heaters supplied from plumbers same as those purchased from HD?
    Last edited by k9mlxj; 11-15-2011 at 11:30 PM.

  6. #6
    Moderator & Master Plumber hj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Cave Creek, Arizona
    Posts
    25,659

    Default

    quote; Are GE heaters supplied from plumbers same as those purchased from HD

    IF a plumber installs a GE water heater, he purchased it from HD, because they are the ONLY ones who sell them. Now, whether they are the same heater as the Rheem/Ruud/Richmond/(and a few others), made by the same company, that is subject to debate. My opinion is that they are NOT subjected to the same inspection process, so that defective units can be sold, and the company makes a profit on them, (since they do not have to discard the unit for failing an inspection), and if it is returned, they have not lost anything because they would have discarded it anyway. But that seems to be a feature of many products sold by them.
    Licensed residential and commercial plumber

  7. #7
    Retired Defense Industry Engineer jadnashua's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    21,428

    Default

    FWIW, if you call the help number in a GE WH manual, they answer Rheem (my neighbor has one). I've not seen both side-by-side, so don't know if it is just a nameplate difference, or there are other differences between the two.
    Jim DeBruycker
    Important note - I'm not a pro
    Retired Defense Industry Engineer; Schluter 2.5-day Workshop Completed 2013, 2014

Similar Threads

  1. frost free hose bibs - quality brand?
    By dripdrip in forum Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & Tricks
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-15-2011, 06:52 PM
  2. Good quality 5-10 gallon electric water heater??
    By The Rich Dude in forum Water Heater Forum, Tanks
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-11-2011, 02:50 PM
  3. Electric water heater manufacturing element quality going bad?
    By ballvalve in forum Water Heater Forum, Tanks
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-17-2010, 04:48 PM
  4. Water Heater Brand
    By Jeff1 in forum Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & Tricks
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 05-26-2006, 06:25 AM
  5. Pump quality... Brand name...
    By Spaceman Spiff in forum Pumps and Tanks Well Forum & Blog
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-25-2005, 10:02 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •