Moen Shower Handle Hub Removal

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I need to remove the handle hub. However, the hub will not come loose. I have tried WD40 and applied pull/torque but to no avail. Any thoughts?
 

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If it looks like this the tear drop area on the handle must be removed and there is a philips screw under it that must be removed first. The tear drop cover can be removed with the blade of a utility knife.

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If it is like this there is a allen screw under the handle at the 6:00 position that must be removed first

How old is the valve?
 
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