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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    Hey Bob,

    It has been a while.

    I still build electronics but I design my own stuff.

    You know that building a V7A and TT1 makes You a old Fart.

    I am a old fart also. I still have my tube tester.

    Being a old fart is better than letting a wet fart.

    I missed the forum but I am back.

    I hope that you were able to keep everything under control why I was gone.

    Nice to here from you.

    The Pros still say the old tube amps sound better that the new solid state amps.

    I used my Collins KWS1 to heat my room in the winter.

    You got to Love the smell of the old tube stuff, when it is cranked up.


    Enjoy your day, I am back to play.


    73s...


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    73's eh, how nice...

    88's? lol...
    Last edited by Cookie; 10-27-2011 at 07:40 PM.

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    I should have said 73s and 88s.

    Sorry Cookie, I missed You.

    Have a great day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    I should have said 73s and 88s.

    Sorry Cookie, I missed You.

    Have a great day.


    DonL
    And for the rest of us: http://www.signalharbor.com/73.html

    Sure, ham it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    And for the rest of us: http://www.signalharbor.com/73.html

    Sure, ham it up!
    OK.

    73 and 88 and 69.

    Call BR549 for a good time.

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    Thank You Bob.

    Glen Zook, K9STH, posted this to the Heathkit mailing list:

    Many amateurs already know that "73" is from what is known as the "Phillips Code", a series of numeric messages conceived for the purpose of cutting down transmission time on the old land telegraph systems when sending text that is basically the same.

    In the April 1935 issue of QST on page 60 there is a short article on the origin of 73. This article was a summation of another article that appeared in the "December Bulletin from the Navy Department Office of the Chief of Naval Operations". That would be December of 1934.

    The quotation from the Navy is as follows: "It appears from a research of telegraph histories that in 1859 the telegraph people held a convention, and one of its features was a discussion as to the saving of 'line time'. A committee was appointed to devise a code to reduce standard expressions to symbols or figures. This committee worked out a figure code, from figure 1 to 92. Most of these figure symbols became obsolescent, but a few remain to this date, such as 4, which means "Where shall I go ahead?'. Figure 9 means 'wire', the wire chief being on the wire and that everyone should close their keys. Symbol 13 means 'I don't understand'; 22 is 'love and a kiss'; 30 means 'good night' or 'the end'. The symbol most often used now is 73, which means 'my compliments' and 92 is for the word 'deliver.' The other figures in between the forgoing have fallen into almost complete disuse."

    One of the chief telegraphers of the Navy Department of Communications, a J. L. Bishop, quoted from memory the signals that were in effect in 1905:

    1 Wait a minute
    4 Where shall I start in message?
    5 Have you anything for me?
    9 Attention or clear the wire
    13 I do not understand
    22 Love and kisses
    25 Busy on another circuit
    30 Finished, the end-used mainly by press telegraphers
    73 My compliments, or Best Regards
    92 Deliver
    Now days, 22 has become 88 (love and kisses). I don't know when this came about. 30 is still used in the newspaper and magazine business to indicate the end of a feature, story, or column. And, of course, 73 is still used by amateur radio operators to mean "best regards".

    Making any of these numbers plural (73s, 88s, etc.) is incorrect since they are already plural. 73s would mean best regardses and 88s would mean love and kisseses. Those make no sense.

    Anyway, the subject of where 73 came from comes up periodically and this article reinforces the "Phillips Code" origin.

    Jim, N2EY, adds:

    Some other related stuff:

    Phillips Code "19" and "31" refer to train orders. They were so well known that the terms "19 order" and "31 order" were still in RR use in the 1970s, long after the telegraph was gone.

    The abbreviation "es" for "and" derives from the Morse character "&". The prosign "SK" with the letters run together derives from the Morse "30".

    The numeric code is a small part of the abbreviations outlined in the Phillips Code (developed by telegrapher Walter P. Phillips). Here are the numbers as referenced:

    W I R E S I G N A L S
    WIRE Preference over everything except 95
    1 Wait a moment
    2 Important Business
    3 What time is it?
    4 Where shall I go ahead?
    5 Have you business for me?
    6 I am ready
    7 Are you ready?
    8 Close your key; circuit is busy
    9 Close your key for priorit business (Wire chief, dispatcher, etc)
    10 Keep this circuit closed
    12 Do you understand?
    13 I understand
    14 What is the weather?
    15 For you and other to copy
    17 Lightning here
    18 What is the trouble?
    19 Form 19 train order
    21 Stop for a meal
    22 Wire test
    23 All copy
    24 Repeat this back
    25 Busy on another wire
    26 Put on ground wire
    27 Priority, very important
    28 Do you get my writing?
    29 Private, deliver in sealed envelope
    30 No more (end)
    31 Form 31 train order
    32 I understand that I am to ...
    33 Car report (Also, answer is paid for)
    34 Message for all officers
    35 You may use my signal to answer this
    37 Diversion (Also, inform all interested)
    39 Important, with priority on thru wire (Also, sleep-car report)
    44 Answer promptly by wire
    73 Best regards
    88 Love and kisses
    91 Superintendant's signal
    92 Deliver promptly
    93 Vice President and General Manager's signals
    95 President's signal
    134 Who is at the key?

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    Bob,


    Call me on 10.7 MHz IF you have time.


    Enjoy Your Day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    Bob,


    Call me on 10.7 MHz IF you have time.


    Enjoy Your Day.


    Don_L
    I no longer have my Precision E400 sweep generator. Wow that was an oldie. I think it had some kind of mechanical device for modulation of the carrier signal;........... never mind, I just googled it and found this memorobilia. Other than an intermediate freq., what was 10.7 MHz used for? I was never a licensed ham Radio operator, so I'm not familiar with most of that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leejosepho View Post
    I made a crystal radio from a kit back in the '50s, and I even wrapped the coil and then used insulators to stretch an antenna wire.
    That Baby picture cracks me up every time that I see it.
    You were a nice looking baby.

    I guess in the 50s it was cheaper to build things.

    To build a Crystal radio now ? Maybe $20 US Dollars.

    To Buy a built in China Crystal radio now ? $5 US Dollars.

    Do You build or do you buy ?


    I build, Using parts made in the USA, if possible.

    The problem is that very few electronic parts are still made in the USA.


    Do you still have the Radio ?
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    Bob... isit eerily quiet... spooky... wait, it is almost Halloween, that is why! I drove home in a monster fog by the way... Couldn't see 10 feet in front of me.

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    I was born to late, I would of loved to play around with a heathkit.

    I've never even had the chance to play on a tube amp, Just new school solid state with no character. Any of you ever play around with Guitar Rig or AmpliTube?, Sorry if that isn't what this thread is about, i seen guitar talk and came runnin

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    I used to spend all my money on Heathkits. Actually, feel free to talk about anything you want here except to compain about the USA; that is reserved for IAN's Corner, where he does the complaining, and we do the rebuttals
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    You made me laugh, first time today. Thank you! I enjoyed it... You always are funny Bob.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    I used to spend all my money on Heathkits. Actually, feel free to talk about anything you want here except to compain about the USA; that is reserved for IAN's Corner, where he does the complaining, and we do the rebuttals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    You made me laugh, first time today. Thank you! I enjoyed it... You always are funny Bob.
    And I thought you'd find the blowing smoke video funny I put up a link to:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uEJbwGYaDs
    Last edited by BobL43; 11-07-2011 at 05:27 PM.
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