bakerzdsoen
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Long story short(ish):
One of my 3 year old twins (most likely) dropped something down "their" toilet and after several attempts at plunging and snaking, whatever it is, it ain't gonna budge.
I don't like the toilet anyway (circa 1994 Gerber that only flushes acceptably well because we destroyed the plastic "bucket" inside the tank so it's no longer truly a 1.6 gpf toilet) so it's no great loss. (I won't bore you with the details - just trust me, saving the toilet isn't worth all the effort I've already put into it.)
The problem is, I was planning on taking this opportunity to actually fix something that bugs me. The bathroom door just barely hits the front of the toilet. It wasn't supposed to (theres even a door stop on the back of the door to prevent it from damaging the tub. Here's a rough picture of the layout:
The toilet is a round toilet that is about 26" deep. Everything would have been fine, but I really think that the motto of whoever built this place was "if we can mess it up, we will." So, the one bathroom in the house with a 14" rough in is this small one (the rest are 12"). So, the door hits.
I was all ready to buy a Vespin II with the Uni-fit adapter, but then I did the math: The current toilet is a little over 26" in depth (and the door hits.) That means that I need a toilet that is around 27" or less AND has a Uni-fit adapter. A Vespin II (much like the Guinevere and Soiree) is about 28.25" deep. That means, including the $45 uni-fit adapter, I'd be paying roughly $200 more (or more depending on the model) than a round Drake for a toilet with some real disadvantages (our twins have a hard enough time with a standard height toilet these days, and I'd actually prefer it be round for them as they seem to get scared of falling in with elongated toilets) and "only" gaining CEFIONTECT and getting rid of the 2" gap behind the toilet (not to mention 2.2Lpf). And the door would still hit the toilet.
I'd like CEFIONTECT. And yeah, dual-cyclone would be nice, (g-max would be a HUGE improvement over what we've got.)
So, my question is: is it really worth $200 for -2.2Lpf (I could get an Eco-Drake if I wanted and negate that one), CEFIONTECT, dual-cyclone, no gap behind the tank, but having a toilet that is too high and big for my kids (for the next year or two) and still doesn't let the door clear? Oh, and it's probably easier to clean with the skirted design...
Obviously I'm leaning toward the round Drake (I started this adventure at HD/Lowes, so I've at least made it this far), but only because I'm just not seeing the value in the Vespin II - for me in this situation. (Don't get me wrong, I'll probably put a Vespin II, Drake II, or a Guinevere in our master bath at some point because I can see the value for that circumstance.) I'm just not sure if it's the frustration/disappointment from figuring out that the door is still going to hit, or if it's really logic driving me to the Drake.
Am I missing something?
One of my 3 year old twins (most likely) dropped something down "their" toilet and after several attempts at plunging and snaking, whatever it is, it ain't gonna budge.
I don't like the toilet anyway (circa 1994 Gerber that only flushes acceptably well because we destroyed the plastic "bucket" inside the tank so it's no longer truly a 1.6 gpf toilet) so it's no great loss. (I won't bore you with the details - just trust me, saving the toilet isn't worth all the effort I've already put into it.)
The problem is, I was planning on taking this opportunity to actually fix something that bugs me. The bathroom door just barely hits the front of the toilet. It wasn't supposed to (theres even a door stop on the back of the door to prevent it from damaging the tub. Here's a rough picture of the layout:
The toilet is a round toilet that is about 26" deep. Everything would have been fine, but I really think that the motto of whoever built this place was "if we can mess it up, we will." So, the one bathroom in the house with a 14" rough in is this small one (the rest are 12"). So, the door hits.
I was all ready to buy a Vespin II with the Uni-fit adapter, but then I did the math: The current toilet is a little over 26" in depth (and the door hits.) That means that I need a toilet that is around 27" or less AND has a Uni-fit adapter. A Vespin II (much like the Guinevere and Soiree) is about 28.25" deep. That means, including the $45 uni-fit adapter, I'd be paying roughly $200 more (or more depending on the model) than a round Drake for a toilet with some real disadvantages (our twins have a hard enough time with a standard height toilet these days, and I'd actually prefer it be round for them as they seem to get scared of falling in with elongated toilets) and "only" gaining CEFIONTECT and getting rid of the 2" gap behind the toilet (not to mention 2.2Lpf). And the door would still hit the toilet.
I'd like CEFIONTECT. And yeah, dual-cyclone would be nice, (g-max would be a HUGE improvement over what we've got.)
So, my question is: is it really worth $200 for -2.2Lpf (I could get an Eco-Drake if I wanted and negate that one), CEFIONTECT, dual-cyclone, no gap behind the tank, but having a toilet that is too high and big for my kids (for the next year or two) and still doesn't let the door clear? Oh, and it's probably easier to clean with the skirted design...
Obviously I'm leaning toward the round Drake (I started this adventure at HD/Lowes, so I've at least made it this far), but only because I'm just not seeing the value in the Vespin II - for me in this situation. (Don't get me wrong, I'll probably put a Vespin II, Drake II, or a Guinevere in our master bath at some point because I can see the value for that circumstance.) I'm just not sure if it's the frustration/disappointment from figuring out that the door is still going to hit, or if it's really logic driving me to the Drake.
Am I missing something?