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    Hey dude it is not only me but the National Electrical Manufacturers Association that makes these statements as well as the manufacturers of the aluminum wiring methods.

    Your analogy of using copper verses aluminum as a tie wire is nowhere close as to using the two for an electrical circuit. Just how many times do you twist a conductor when making up switches and receptacles? Let me think, well we take them out 3 or 4 times every day to check on them……
    Come on man act like you at least know what we are talking about.

    I suppose if I got me a #8 conductor it would bend easier than a 250kcmil so maybe there is some merit to what you are saying. Any well versed electrician knows that there will be a difference in flexibility of a TW conductor and a THHN conductor but the conductor plays no role but instead the insulation.

    The wire you found in the desert sounds like a piece of wire the Indians used to tie up their electrical cords with. It sure lasted a long time.

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    When you wire your house in 12g aluminum wire, be sure and buy all arc fault breakers. That will even out the cost with copper. And install extra smoke detectors, with copper wire, just to be sure.

    The telegraph wire makes great hooks. 120 years in the dirt and the copper is still fresh says much about its qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballvalve View Post
    When you wire your house in 12g aluminum wire, be sure and buy all arc fault breakers.
    Arc fault breakers are slowly becoming a code requirement in many more branch circuits, so this won't be an extra (optional) cost. IF you install the stuff properly, it works. That takes both the right technique, materials, and good workmanship.
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    The only comment I have is Beverly Hills Supper Club fire,165 dead and it was blamed on aluminum wiring,but it
    caused a big controversy and lots of law suits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwhyu2 View Post
    The only comment I have is Beverly Hills Supper Club fire,165 dead and it was blamed on aluminum wiring,but it
    caused a big controversy and lots of law suits.
    Why not throw in some pics of burned up bodies, just to add to the drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballvalve View Post
    When you wire your house in 12g aluminum wire, be sure and buy all arc fault breakers. That will even out the cost with copper. And install extra smoke detectors, with copper wire, just to be sure.
    I didn't read every word of every post, but I don't recall seeing where anyone said they are going to wire their house with #12AL. Can you point that out to me?
    Or is this just more over dramatics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    Why not throw in some pics of burned up bodies, just to add to the drama.
    I saw the bodies lined up I guess this why Al wiring became such problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    I didn't read every word of every post, but I don't recall seeing where anyone said they are going to wire their house with #12AL. Can you point that out to me?
    Or is this just more over dramatics?
    Our mod said he would wire his house in 12 ga al if he could get it and do it the right way, as I recall.

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