I don't understand circumcision surgery in America

**Ian Gills** · 08-20-2011, 07:30 AM

Cookie is right. I have heard the same thing.

But in itself this should be cause for change. Having to make the cut because of a future threat of bullying is disgusting.

I thought Americans stood against threats like this?

It seems not when it comes to matters concerning "down there".

I didn't see anything wrong with your posts Bob. Ian's, yes, lol, yours no... not what I saw.

And what is wrong with my posts Cookie? Please do tell.

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 08:12 AM

You get things wrong Ian. Sometimes, laughingly so. Sometimes, irritatingly so. Once in a while you may be right, but not like me though, I am always right. I am woman.

I am the smarter sex.

(Mammography was created by a male, you can bet; and, circumcision by a female.) lol. This is written in the bible

It keeps you guys submissive.

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 08:26 AM

You are always right, when you know I am right, and say it, so...

**BobL43** · 08-20-2011, 09:02 AM

Personally, it is my belief that people who are so strongly against circumcision feel that way because they don't wan't boys in general to look like Jews, you know, anti-semites? Those posters say to ask the infant if they want it. What does "goo goo" mean anyway, yes? I've seen it done to infants in a religeous ceremony, and the child wailed for a moment, but then was fine.

Now how would anybody know if there is less pleasure felt if the procedure had been done or not. Any adult male who has it done by choice will always remember the post surgical pain before fully healing and that may create a psycological problem, (or not). Man, if I got more pleasure than I have all these years, I just don't know how I'd deal with it. Things have been good since puberty. And somebody said cleanliness is next to Godliness, but it is NOT in the Bible.

**BobL43** · 08-20-2011, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Cookie

I may not had read all the posts at times, but, I didn't see anything wrong with your posts Bob. Ian's, yes, lol, yours no... not what I saw.

But, what I wrote was the truth. It starts early in school, too. I taught first grade fine motor and gross motor, along with reading, but, gross motor was using the large muscles in the body which required showering after class. I heard it all, and had to intervene.

Personally, I don't know where he thinks it would save on healthcare costs because it is elected surgeries.

Maybe because in socialized medicine it would be paid for by the taxpayers? But as you said, it is an elective procedure here, and most insurance companies will not pay for it.

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 09:34 AM

I thought it sounded good ( it was written in the bible) and, Ian would fall for it, lol
Are you sure, Eve didn't say it in Genesis?

Ian, the problem with making a one-size fits all theology on things is you can't force something to fit... that creates bullying.

Some parents will believe it is right, some won't, some men ( as I know one) will decide to have it done while older for various health reasons. But, you can't take a nation and decide to make them all adhere to one belief. What is this called, Ian?

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 09:41 AM

This is the difference between countries.
Here is one country, where 2 americans are accused of sneaking into the country, they are imprisoned for 2 years already, and now sentenced to 8 more years in prison. Most likely, just hikers Ian... Not everyone they have accused can be a spy.

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-sentences...133532047.html

Now, in our country, you can sneak in, and we will give you everything you need or want, even medically, and then some. Is their something wrong with this picture?

You got to ask yourself why it is people flock to our country? One word answer: Freedom.

I am not trying to be mean, just being honest.

**ballvalve** · 08-20-2011, 01:30 PM

Getting back on Ian's track.....

The circumsized man does retain much more sensitivity, which one would think shortens his performance time. Remember, the best pens are kept in gold plated cases. I don't buy my Slim Jims unwrapped in bulk. I think it should be covered before use.

For the circumsized arab or african woman, that means she can read far fewer chapters of the Koran while being bothered.

Not so good for the American woman that read Cosmo and are told they should get at least an hour out of their pleasure and a 10 minute hug afterward.

**BobL43** · 08-20-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by ballvalve

Getting back on Ian's track.....

The circumsized man does retain much more sensitivity, which one would think shortens his performance time. Remember, the best pens are kept in gold plated cases. I don't buy my Slim Jims unwrapped in bulk. I think it should be covered before use.

For the circumsized arab or african woman, that means she can read far fewer chapters of the Koran while being bothered.

Not so good for the American woman that read Cosmo and are told they should get at least an hour out of their pleasure and a 10 minute hug afterward.

Hugh Heffner's latest girlfriend cancelled the wedding cause she said he lasted only 2 seconds, so does that mean he is cut? Of course he is old enough to be her great grandfather. Poor guy.

**geniescience** · 08-20-2011, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ian Gills

...not thinking things through.....

Ditto . Not thinking things through.

**Ian Gills** · 08-20-2011, 03:22 PM

The problem, of course, is when your child's file in the hospital nursery has "DO NOT CIRCUMCISE" on the front of it in big red letters in case the doctor forgets.

It's just scarey that Americans treat this type of unnecessary procedure as normal.

It points towards the Founding Fathers or, perhaps, the Pilgrims. Now, which was it?

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by ballvalve

Getting back on Ian's track.....

The circumsized man does retain much more sensitivity, which one would think shortens his performance time. Remember, the best pens are kept in gold plated cases. I don't buy my Slim Jims unwrapped in bulk. I think it should be covered before use.

For the circumsized arab or african woman, that means she can read far fewer chapters of the Koran while being bothered.

Not so good for the American woman that read Cosmo and are told they should get at least an hour out of their pleasure and a 10 minute hug afterward.

Ah, yes...getting back on track about male's being circumsized, it is much healthier and much more appealing physically looking to a female where most men are downright just ugly looking...with or without their pants on. So far as Cosmo, it is way outdated, no chic woman reads it anymore. AND, are you aware that women in this country do get circumsized and sewn shut as Ian puts it, "down there" by those who immigrate here and still adhere to their cultures? Any gny will tell you that. It simply is not as unusual as most unknowledgeable men realize, even for today. Men think very simple. And most men would die doing an hours worth of sex, no stamina.

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ian Gills

The problem, of course, is when your child's file in the hospital nursery has "DO NOT CIRCUMCISE" on the front of it in big red letters in case the doctor forgets.

It's just scarey that Americans treat this type of unnecessary procedure as normal.

It points towards the Founding Fathers or, perhaps, the Pilgrims. Now, which was it?

Are you aware that the Founding fathers of my country did not get circumsized? Most men before WW2 wasn't either. My father wasn't. But, Veneral disease changed all that. Under that skin is harbored little bits of disease which can reinfect you, and your mate or partner, over and over and over. All veneral diseases. All kinds of infections which are not pleasant.

If it is not a culture thing, it should be a matter of health and hygenics. In our country, my country, it started after the big one. To prevent the spread of the number one sex disease, syphillis. Many many men came home with more than just medals. Syphillis.

Today we know that chlamydia is harbored on a male there and what is really sad is the fact that many men are not aware that they can catch it from a woman, for some unknown stupid reason they think they cannot catch what is known primarily to be a female's sexual disease. Not so. AND, that can be reinfecting the same person, or new person over and over.

So, in this person's opinion, which can be gladly skimmed over here, if you got a newborn, a newborn son, for health reasons alone get him circumsized; it is harder when he will be older, and those days showering amongst many other boys who are circumsized can be very long ones and torturous ones. Spare your son if you love him.

**Ian Gills** · 08-20-2011, 05:39 PM

Most Europeans did not and have not had this done, unlike the Americans.

Which makes you wonder just what did Americans get up to during the War?

No wonder a healthy dose of church is needed here!

**Cookie** · 08-20-2011, 05:49 PM

Well, Ian, ask yourself what countries the Americans fought in? so, they didn't catch it here in the US. And, for the facts, your countrymen also, was at risk. I am sure... your soldiers got infected as well. Maybe, your country kept it a bit more quiet and hushed, which doesn't do anyone any good. Indeed, it does more harm, more goes untreated, spreads it, and dies. It might do you some good to look into the facts from those days, you might be surprised.