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    Default LED Lamp for Can light housings

    Last night my wife and I were at a Home Depot and my wife pointed out to me the display they had with an integrated LED "bulb" and trim built to use in 6 inch hi hat housings. Past winter I had bought a Lutron dimmer for use with dimmable CFL's and LED lamps, plus 2 Sylvania dimmable R30 CFL bulbs. I was not impressed at all with the perfomance. These CFL's were on Lutron's list of tested bulbs.
    I don't think they would dim down to even 50% before they would flicker and go out completely.

    So, last night, even though i was not impressed by this integrated, bulb trim unit, I bought 2 of them to try out. After all, you can return even an abused lawnmower with a siezed up engine to HD as long as you drain out the fluids. ( I never did, but I have seen people actually do this!).
    The cans I installed them in are over 30 years old, but they worked out fine. In order to properly install these bulbs, you have to remove the trim and some of the bracketry for the bulb socket, as these units have their own clips to support them in the housing.

    I was very pleasantly surprised! These bulbs work GREAT! they dim down to about 10% smoothly and they look nice (not as nice as the Juno eyball trim I had). They are as bright as a 60 Watt incandescant bulb as far as I can see by eye. they have a 3 year warranty. They are expensive at 35 bucks each, for sure, but I like! No real heat, even less than a CFL.
    And no, I have no stock in Home Depot. I do with Lowes, though.

    I don't know what kind of return on investment I'll get with 70 dollars worth of light bulbs for 3 years, and I hope they do not fail before that, although for that kind of money, you can bet I'll save my receipt for them. I bought them cause I think they are real cool (well I do now, after installing them).

    installation info: http://www.*********.com/catalog/pdf...1094eafc05.pdf

    sorry about the link being censored, but you can google it
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    Them are pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    Them are pretty cool.
    Thanks for the working link Don.
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    Thanks for the working link Don.
    Thanks Bob for thanking Don for the working link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Thanks Bob for thanking Don for the working link.

    http://lcsc.net/terry_love/ECOSMART_LED.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Thanks Bob for thanking Don for the working link.
    And thank you Ian for pointing that out for me. Tea anyone? Oh, is it too late? Oh my. I can have coffee with my crumpet, mightn't I?

    It is difficult Ian to do a thorough job of posting here when I do it from my part time job, where I do an impeccable job at what I do. Well sometimes, to be honest, there is some pecking. Thanks again Don for tidying up.
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    You speak very good English for an American Bob.

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    Bob,

    I Bought 8 of these about two months ago to replace some 65W floods in a 6" can. The floods acted like heat lamps. I would not use them in the summer here in South Florida. I measured the 65W flood temps at about 150dF after 10 seconds and the LED's only get to 87dF after 10 minutes.

    These LEDs have a pretty close temperature color output to the standard floods.

    The LED's stay COOL and dim beautifully. They are actually CREE CR6's http://www.creeledlighting.com/Produ...ights/CR6.aspx and relabeled for Home Depot.

    I now use the floods all the time. See picture of my Kitchen with the CREE LEDs

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    I am very happy with the 2 I installed.
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    I am a bit skeptic about using LED than the usual bulbs. I am not so sure about LED. I have tried it but I donít like the lighting quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericburns4 View Post
    I am a bit skeptic about using LED than the usual bulbs. I am not so sure about LED. I have tried it but I donít like the lighting quality.
    There are many LED bulbs out there, and not all of them give off the same light as an incandescant bulb that we are used to. The ones I bought give off light at 2700 degrees K, which is what a normal incand bulb at its rated voltage gives off. I too have seen LED's that give off an intense white or blue white light that I do not like, but what I wrote about is *what* I wrote about.. There are others that DO like the new brilliant light though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericburns4 View Post
    I am a bit skeptic about using LED than the usual bulbs. I am not so sure about LED. I have tried it but I don’t like the lighting quality.
    I was also skeptical but I am now a convert.

    As Bob said lots depends on the color of the light output. The Cree cr6's and Home Depot retrofits made by Cree have a 2700 deg Kelvin output. Look at my posted picture. This is real life usage and not a manufacture touched up photo.

    They have a frosted lens cover and if you did not know you would swear they are incandescent bulbs. The BIG drawback is cost. Here in South Florida they cost $50 each. For me it was worth it as now I actually can turn the lights on full and not feel the radiant heat emitted from the old 65w flood lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryR View Post
    I was also skeptical but I am now a convert.

    As Bob said lots depends on the color of the light output. The Cree cr6's and Home Depot retrofits made by Cree have a 2700 deg Kelvin output. Look at my posted picture. This is real life usage and not a manufacture touched up photo.

    They have a frosted lens cover and if you did not know you would swear they are incandescent bulbs. The BIG drawback is cost. Here in South Florida they cost $50 each. For me it was worth it as now I actually can turn the lights on full and not feel the radiant heat emitted from the old 65w flood lights.

    Jerry
    Hi Jerry, I was in Home Depot yesterday and the price actually went down to either $25.99 or $29.99, I can't remember. Their web site still shows it at 49.99 though.
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    Default Dumb dum dah dumb, dum dah dum da da da dumb

    mmmmm, so maybe they are no good after all! One failed last night totally. going to return it or both to HD for a refund, but not sure if I'll re-buy them at the lower price of 25.99 vs the 35.99 I paid in July.

    So much for LED longevitynah:
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    mmmmm, so maybe they are no good after all! One failed last night totally. going to return it or both to HD for a refund, but not sure if I'll re-buy them at the lower price of 25.99 vs the 35.99 I paid in July.

    So much for LED longevitynah:

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