Reply With QuoteDo not do this, I repeat do not do thisOriginally Posted by Furd
The GFCI device will protect any thing down stream..
Don you are incorrect
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Since you cannot answer I have put you on permanent ignore.
Do not do this, I repeat do not do this
The GFCI device will protect any thing down stream..
Don you are incorrect
Last edited by jwelectric; 07-17-2011 at 04:45 AM.
Wow, for an older man your latest few posts make it seem like you are some angry kid.
So anyway, you keep spouting "Follow manufactures directions.."
I looked at them. The OP looked at them. NEITHER of us sees where it says to connect it to a grounding electrode system. I am amazed that you keep so firm on this stance since it is simply not true.
If you see it in the instructions, and not under the section for connection to a building's electrical system, PLEASE post your findings.
Proper operation of Honda Generator;
http://www.mayberrys.com/honda/gener.../operation.htm
Have a Great Day.
DonL
Last edited by DonL; 07-17-2011 at 06:12 AM.
Don't pay someone to do a job fast, when you can do a half-fast job yourself.
I couldn't find any requirement or suggestion to connect the portable generator to an earth connection in this link.
Could you point it out please.
"Make sure the system is grounded according to local regulations."
For Your reading Pleasure;
http://www.electrical-design-tutor.c...grounding.html
http://www.cumminspower.com/www/lite...ingAC-2-en.pdf
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurr..._generator.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthing_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_%28electricity%29
"The terms ground and grounding are used in US electrical practice. In the UK the equivalent terms are earth and earthing."
Last edited by DonL; 07-17-2011 at 09:59 AM.
Don't pay someone to do a job fast, when you can do a half-fast job yourself.
That is not a recommendation or requirement to connect to earth."Make sure the system is grounded according to local regulations."
Should this generator be connected to a transfer switch then the grounding of the premises wiring is required to be connected to earth and this would be the local regulations that is being referenced not the installation of an electrode system for the genset.
The devices outlined in the original post is not part of the premises wiring system and is nothing more than an extension of the generator receptacle then no earth connection is required.
As defined in the NEC an automobile does not have a ground wire anywhere in its electrical system but instead has a connection to the negative post of the battery which in layman’s terms is called ground. This is where a lot of confusion comes to the reference to ground in the premises wiring system of our homes.
In our homes the word ground means a connection to earth. It is through the main bonding that the fault current is allowed to return on the neutral conductor to the source which causes the fuse to blow or the breaker to trip.
jwelectric,
Do you agree with the recommendation to bond the ground and neutral inside of the inlet? The generator has overload protection but GFCI is not specified. Thanks.
Last edited by JAR8832; 07-17-2011 at 09:26 AM.
IF the Honda generator has a built-in GFCI then I agree with jwelectric. If it does NOT have a built-in GFCI then the method I suggest IS acceptable.
OR you could use a portable GFCI between the generator and the power inlet in the garage. This is probably the best option.
No
Do nothing but lpug it in. The receptacle that you are plugging the cord into on the generator is GFCI protected.
no this is not acceptable.
"Make sure the system is grounded according to local regulations."
For Your reading Pleasure;
http://www.electrical-design-tutor.c...grounding.html
http://www.cumminspower.com/www/lite...ingAC-2-en.pdf
http://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurr..._generator.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthing_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_%28electricity%29
"The terms ground and grounding are used in US electrical practice. In the UK the equivalent terms are earth and earthing."
Study this info and decide.
The only thing that you need to do is Ground the Electrical generating source, at the source.
The Bonding is done internal inside the generator.
Period...
Last edited by DonL; 07-17-2011 at 10:33 AM.
Don't pay someone to do a job fast, when you can do a half-fast job yourself.
The first two links are for fixed generators and the third link says the same thing we are trying our best to explain to you
A portable generator does not need nor require a earth ground.
The bonding is done to the frame of the generator
Do it how you want to do it, I will do it and recommend the way that it should be done correctly.
The original poster wanted facts, not opinions.
The Facts are in the docs...
Last edited by DonL; 07-17-2011 at 01:29 PM.
Don't pay someone to do a job fast, when you can do a half-fast job yourself.
So all that is left to do is for you to read and study them. Any and all of the links that you posted is nothing more than opinion. The facts come from the code books and the code book is what I have quoted.
What you have done is muddy the water with a lot of junk and opinions. In this thread you have not made one statement of fact but only your opinion which is wrong.
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