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    Hello all - after 21 years of love the beautiful blue toilet in my photo is to be replaced. It's an American Standard and I'm sure it was not one of the upper level models at the time. But it's served us well and continues to work perfectly. But we're remodeling (yes that awful vinyl floor is being replaced with travertine!) and it's time to say goodbye to Blue and hello to a new toilet. But here's the problem - we have NO IDEA which one to buy!!! So please...share your expert advice with us. We want a choice that will last another 20 years!

    Here are our requirements:
    - color - bone or cream (I am so tired of special order toilet seats!!!)
    - ADA height
    - powerful flush with water covering the entire bowl
    - easy installation - my husband is a talented DIYer, but not a plumber, and wants to install it himself
    - if it were also a thing of beauty that would be awesome too
    - it would be good if it were not over $500, but we're willing to pay for a performer that will last

    Here's what we don't know:
    - what's better 1 or 2 piece? We like the way 1 looks but not sure if there are issues with a one piece that we will not want to deal with
    - what's really the best brand and model for the money
    - do we really need a plumber to install it and we should forget the DIY thought?
    - I'm sure there are many things we don't know that I'm not even thinking to ask!

    Thank you for your advice - we are looking to purchase before the end of the week and our decision will be made from advice we get in this forum!

    Much love and thanks to you all ~ GoldDustWoman

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    Most of the regulars on this forum prefer the Toto line of toilets. They can be reviewed elsewhere on this forum. One piece have their advantages. Most models are easily installed DIY. Since you purchased your AS, times have changed. The famous name manufactures have sold out and do not have the high quality their name was build on. Toto is the largest manufacturer of toilets in the world with many models to chose from. You might be well advised to peruse the threads on this section of the forum and get some ideas.

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    You won't find a bowl that is new that has as much water as the old one.
    In 1992, they went to a 1.6 gallon bowl.

    Something like the Toto Drake II, CST454CEFG-03 in the Bone/Almond would work.
    Tall bowl
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    Thank you both so much for your responses. I've been researching the Toto Drake - but it's funny because I've never heard of it before? Is Toto a secret that only professionals know about?

    What do you think about DIY installation - especially knowing we're dealing with an original installation in 1989? What are the most common problems my husband might run into?

    Thank you again!!!

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    Toilets still install the same way except a few Toto models that use a special adapter for non standard rough-ins. There should be no problems assuming the flange is still in good condition (no reason to think that is will not be OK) You do need to know the rough-in size although there is always some latitude in that distance. 12" measured from the finished wall to the flange bolts is the "standard", but different distances can be dealt with once the measurement is determined. Let's deal with that after you have measured, and we know what you are working with.

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    This travertine is tile correct? The most commen thing people do is to lay the tile first then they realize the toilets flange is too low. There are ways to deal with this but the best idea is to have a plumber install a new flange at the right height before the tile is in. Once this is done it should be easy to install the new toilet.

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