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    Electrical Contractor/Instructor jwelectric's Avatar
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    If you are a person doing electrical installations let us know if you get a permit before starting you project.

    If you don't get a permit what type of installation are you doing and why did you not get a permit.

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    I have pulled a homeowners permit for DIY work at my house. I don't do electrical "on the job" except electric water heaters, and if any one pulls an electric permit for that? Well, I don't think so , Tim!

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    I get a permit for any work where one is required. It is well worth the small cost to make sure things are legal and having another person checking your work to make sure it is correct.

    Around here, the permit cost is very reasonable. I also know it is a pain for someone in the future to fix mistakes as I have had to correct a lot of previous bad work on my reno (hidden junction boxes, overfilled junctions, wiring too close to stud surface without protection, unvented plumbing, hacked joists, etc.). Doing it right the first time is MUCH easier than fixing it later.

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    My neighbors just had a new roof put on with a permit,
    Not included in the permit were the new ceilings, insulation and lighting.

    Hurt my soul to watch but hidden and non-accessable junction boxs.
    God forbid when the lights need to be serviced. But their goal is to sell the house and move soon so long term was not the heighest priority....

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    If I am running a new branch circuit in EMT, for a new receptacle 20 feet from my main panel, I would not pull a permit because it is not worth the trouble.

    I have had permits for other more considerable plumbing and electric. The plumbing inspection I had took all of 5 minutes. I was set up for a pressure test but he only looked at the gauge once before approving the work. After all the preparation, I was really quite disappointed.

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    Hello All,

    Are you allowed to inspect your own work, Where You live ? If You get a permit ?

    Even if you are a Licensed Inspector ?

    If you get a permit here, They raise your taxes. It is a improvement to your dwelling.

    I think it is a lot about Money. Not Safety.


    DonL.

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    Don,

    I would say no. There is a difference between someone who does inspections for when someone buys a house and the city/county inspectors. Now if a city/county inspector does work on his own home, then I don't know. In the engineering world, though, work would always be checked by an independent reviewer. Hopefully, it is the same with inspections.

    Regarding taxes, it depends on the work being done. Adding an outlet or replacing a water heater shouldn't change the value at all. If you are adding on or doing a major renovation, then you may see taxes increase. However, I believe this is fair. If you buy a $500,000 house, you expect to pay more taxes than if you bought a $100,000 house, right? You wouldn't expect them to be the same. If they were the same, the person with the $100,000 house would say that it isn't fair because he cannot afford $5,000/year in taxes while the person with the $500,000 house probably could. I think it is the same if you fix a house up. If you bought a house that would be worth $250,000 (in good shape), but you bought for $100,000 because it was trashed and then you dumped another $100,000 into it to fix it up, don't you think it is fair to base the value on $200,000 - $250,000 value instead of $100,000 value? What it all boils down to is it costs x number of dollars to run the local government. If everyone didn't report improvements and/or property values didn't increase to offset inflation, increased wages, etc., then the % paid on property would jut be increased instead of the appraised value. The money has to come from somewhere.

    As cacher_chick said, I do wish that the inspectors would spend a little more time checking things. However, they just have too many inspections to do with the number of people that they have. What I find is that if they see looks to be good work, they will be done and gone quickly. If they see things that they don't like, they are going to dig deeper and see what else is wrong.

    Bottom line: I think that if you ever had to do a bunch of extra work just because the guy before you tried to say a couple bucks and skip the permit, you will agree that permits are a good idea. The system isn't perfect and the inspector is not going to catch everything, but people tend to do better work when inspections occur because they don't know what the inspector will catch and they don't want to re-do and call for another inspection (waste of time and money). Without a permit, many people tend to just throw things together and not care if it is safe or if it is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    Hello All,

    Are you allowed to inspect your own work, Where You live ? If You get a permit ?

    Even if you are a Licensed Inspector ?

    If you get a permit here, They raise your taxes. It is a improvement to your dwelling.

    I think it is a lot about Money. Not Safety.


    DonL.
    No. No one is allowed to inspect their own work.

    Nuke wraps up the tax issue in fine fashion.

    A lot of states have adopted the law that one cannot profit from an illegal action. States that have adopted this law give homeowner insurance companies a legal right to sue someone doing unpermitted work in which a paid out loss occurs.
    By getting a permit and having the work inspected no matter how small could save you from having to repay insurance companies for any losses they incur in an insurance settlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    Hello All,
    If you get a permit here, They raise your taxes. It is a improvement to your dwelling.
    I think it is a lot about Money. Not Safety.
    DonL.
    I have never applied for any permit :-) I simply keep it secret. The house is mine, I bought it by cash - not by bank credit so I have no reason to rise the value of the house :-)

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