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    Me? A scare-d-cat? ( to be polite) You don't know me very well. It is a civil war which we don't need to participate in, we can't fight everyone's fights. If you and the French wanted to participate go for it! But, we deserve a break... Plus, when we wanted to go after him years ago, France didn't care much, not even enough to let us fly over their country. Why care now?



    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Don't be such a scare-d-cat. This is the guy that took down one of your planes over our soil (Pan Am).

    This is not just a quiet dictator getting on with his business. He's a difficult character causing harm to civilians.

    It's a sad day when the British have to teach the Americans about freedom.

    But I've been saying it all along. We should never have left.

    From one mad dog to another...

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    Cool Dont you just love the French.....

    Ian....
    I am getting a JOLLEY GOOD LAUGH watching this all go down on TV right now
    you europeans are really entertaining........

    The french and English quarreling over who is in charge, the germans and the Turks and Greeks wanting noting to do with it...... and yet it is supposed to be a NATO thing, or some sort half-assed of alliance????

    It looks to me that they all have their thumbs up their asses and want the americans to take the lead........

    Its just the same old game...
    everyone wants the USA to wipe their butts for them
    and con us into doing all the fighting for them... and spending our
    nations wealth instead of seeing them go into the hole for a change.

    not a one of them have the stomach or will to get into the thick of it,
    even when its the oil that is really at stake here.....

    they are all a bunch of in-decisesive pussies that cant get along.
    I hope that the English finally man up and take the lead in this whole mess...

    BEFORE the French surrender...or throw in the towell..

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    No. What they actually want is America out and Nato command in, including a coalition of Arab forces.

    US involvement has so far involved some Americans firing missiles while sitting safely in boats well off-shore.

    You've just got to salute the bravery of the American forces.

    The French and the British are doing the real work. France took down a Libyan jet today.

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    Default good move by OBAMA

    I am with Obama on this one..... and I think he has made a fantastic decision
    to let the OTHER MEMBERS OF NATO and or the UNITED NATIONS
    take a turn and do for themselves...

    they are all a bunch of cry-babies.... if Russia moves a missle a half mile
    closer to their borders, they come crying to us wanting us to get the issue resolved....

    Obama is forceing Nato to man up and do something for themselves....

    I SAY GOOD FOR HIM.... anything is better than the USA always having to
    hold everyones hand for the last 75 years....



    The French piolit who shot down that jet will
    probably become a national hero in France. Their
    first actual hero since we bailed them out in Vietnam

    anyway IAN....
    its JOLLY GOOD great entertainment....its almost like watching
    a 3 stooges film festivle on TV....



    The Nato Allies and the United natioins in action...........

    What will curley, larry and Moe
    argue about next??? .

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    I'd like to see American boots on the ground to protect the civilians.

    They do not have any arms to fight back.

    And the last time the US provided arms to rebels they turned them on the Americans a decade or so later (Afghanistan).

    So let's get the American troops in. And if they have any trouble, we'll back them up with Special Forces.....British Forces, that is. But let's go in with the American "light" infantry first before we send in the heavies.

    I am getting a bit worried that this military intervention may backfire however...

    But I have finally worked out why America got its Independence. England needed an army and it is housed here. God Save the Queen.
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    Cool you are totally right about that

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    I'd like to see American boots on the ground to protect the civilians.

    They do not have any arms to fight back.

    And the last time the US provided arms to rebels they turned them on the Americans a decade or so later (Afghanistan).

    So let's get the American troops in. And if they have any trouble, we'll back them up with Special Forces.....British Forces, that is. But let's go in with the American "light" infantry first before we send in the heavies.

    I am getting a bit worried that this military intervention may backfire however...

    But I have finally worked out why America got its Independence. England needed an army and it is housed here. God Save the Queen.



    Yes, you are right.....
    we have been doing Englands bidding for two world wars, we bailed out the French in indochina.....
    and no one has ever paid back their war debt to us , and we have basically waived it all ....

    but it appears that maybe this time others will have to be in the front lines ..... hey thats ok

    wether it be the UN or Nato , I hope that they can somehow overcome their reluctance to be the leaders in this affair and get it over with quickly

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    See, we are now shooting missles, but still is not good enough! Nothing we do is ever right, we still get talked about, it kind of reminds me of being back in high school and all the clicks. Now, you want our soldiers to put their boots on, gee whiz, they are being shined. Curly is shining them, lol.

    P.s. America is out of TP.
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    Actually, after thought, we have been paid back for the war debt by the world using our dollar as the standard and buying our trainloads of T-bills....

    To fund our need for dolllar stores and Mcmansions and electronic debri. And tons of guns and military might. The proviso is that we have to do 99% of the killing in the world.

    America is the worlds hit-man. Nothing personal!

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    Cool the worlds hit man

    Quote Originally Posted by ballvalve View Post
    Actually, after thought, we have been paid back for the war debt by the world using our dollar as the standard and buying our trainloads of T-bills....

    To fund our need for dolllar stores and Mcmansions and electronic debri. And tons of guns and military might. The proviso is that we have to do 99% of the killing in the world.

    America is the worlds hit-man. Nothing personal!

    that is about the truth... they wont pay back theri debt, so we
    get to print out money like its going out of style and they have to accept it

    as far as being the worlds hit man, we have been doing the bidding of a few countries in the middle east for too long a time....


    anything new in the war in Lybia today....?????

    have the french thrown in the towell yet????.


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    [QUOTE=Ian Gills;292428]I must admit that the American traitors did not fight like gentlemen.

    If you'd been brave enough to fight at sea, also, the Royal Navy would have wiped you.

    The East Coast does seem strangely familiar to me. Like a second home. Perhaps a birth right.

    I just got back from Washington DC and wandered through the Smithsonian Museum of American History. I saw the Philadelphia for the first time, which was a wooden Revolutionary War battleship sunk by the British with a lucky canon shot. No one could ever challenge the courage of someone who went to battle on such a small ship. That battle was one by the British, but I seem to remember that the war was not.
    Regarding Libya, my concern is that we are not going to be able to find an ending point without killing Khadaffi and that if we do that we may end up with someone much worse. As I see Khadaffi, most people tolerate him, he is very expensive to have around, and he does little that is good or bad. Quite similar to Prince Charles. Regarding Great Britain, the only product of value it seems to produce is extremely suitable future spouses for future kings. The present proposed future royal spouse is certainly worth driving on the wong side of the road for and it is unfortunate that her DNA will likely be diluted with the DNA which has resulted from five generations of royal cousins marrying each other. She would be better served with a good mixed blooded American stallion.

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    Cool the DNA is pretty strange in the Royals...

    [quote=lotw;293191]
    Quote Originally Posted by ian gills View Post
    i . Regarding great britain, the only product of value it seems to produce is extremely suitable future spouses for future kings. The present proposed future royal spouse is certainly worth driving on the wong side of the road for and it is unfortunate that her dna will likely be diluted with the dna which has resulted from five generations of royal cousins marrying each other. She would be better served with a good mixed blooded american stallion.
    too much in-breeding..... the blood line has become too odd and squrilley

    THANK GOD that the royals dont actually do anything.. like declare war , lop peoples heads off ect.....
    their main duties seem to be to host dinner parties
    and give the country something to gossip about

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    Hmm. Interesting points. But the last time I checked it was American women wanting the dignity of marrying a British man, even British Royal men.

    They know how to treat a lady, you see. Oh, and they don't commit treason against King and Country like your American ancestors did.

    Mrs Simpson could not find what she needed in America...




    ...so she came to England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    . Oh, and they don't commit treason against King and Country like your American ancestors did.
    Hardly treason. The king never owned this land. He THOUGHT he did, but was not smart enough to realize he was over his head. We stole this land fair and square from the Indians, and that is another story!

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    Forgive me Ian, but when I see the soft hair, the lovely flower, and the to-die-for striped knickers, the only words that I can think of are "Don't ask and don't tell."

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    Come on now. American ladies are not that bad looking are they?

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