If it wasn't for the engineers you'd be out threading iron pipe day in and day out. And if it was not for plumbers unions, we would have had PEX 30 years ago.
Yea...
30 years ago the engineers gave us Polybutylene with Acetal fittings...
Can you blame us for being a tad bit reluctant to jump up and down with joy eagerly accepting the next generation of plastic miracle pipe?
When the plumbers were left holding such a large liability on a defective product...
Especially when the lawsuits started up with Kitec
http://www.plumbingdefect.com/index.html, Zurn, Rehau, and DuraPex....
And many of those same companies that made the polybutylene are doing the same thing over again...
The plumbers are going out of business and the manufacturer says "There isn't anything wrong with our product but we are going to stop selling it."
Nukeman, my wine cellar has a domed 6 to 12" thick high strength concrete roof, with at least as much steel as the average Nuke dome. Now if I can afford that, and the existing plants are at 4", we have a pack of dopes building them.
Ummm Ballvalve....
I'm seeing some sloppy engineering here...
Attention to detail is very important in engineering especially when life safety is involved.
Nukeman said 4' thick.... the difference between 4' and 4" is 44" which is a fairly large error when you are designing a nuke reactor containment dome...
Please whatever your area of engineering excellence is please go there and stick with it....
This
Jack of All... Master of None... is getting a little scary....
You are clearly out of your league both in Plumbing and Nuke Design...
There are some engineers with dirty hands, JB weld and a few excavators that were raised with common sense, who think outside the box. But most of the plumbers, roofers and painters I have used had, at best, just dirty hands.
You are correct in that at least 80% of engineers can't tie their shoes, and have never driven a screw, drilled a hole or set a big valve....
Clearly you aren't saying that you as an engineer would be using JB Weld on a Plumbing or, Nuke Build....
That is not thinking outside the box or, with common sense! That is just plain Hackery!
I'm beginning to think that I have met an engineer that hacks his way along using JB Weld to cover his mistakes, Ties his shoes with a granny knot, puts in screws and forgets to tighten them, drills crooked holes, & we can only hope hasn't set a big valve where life safety might be an issue....