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    apologize for having to repost with different user name, but tried and tried to log on, even created a new account a couple of times in order to try and respond to post about my question about ge or whirlpool that you buy at lowes.
    Here is my water test result from feb of 2010, right after this, i shocked the well with a product called well safe, and behold everything cleared up until about 2 months ago, now the red is back, i plan on getting my water tested again, but here was the first results, actually saw a water test at lowes, is that as good as dropping it off at the local plumbing supply house
    ph - 6.46, hardness - 1.59 GPG(grains per gallon), Iron (fe) - .28 Fe, i called whirpool and was told that i had soft water all ready but they recommended the whirpool WHES30, i was looking at the WHES40, but was told it would be too big due to results of my water test. I then called the local plumbing house where i had the original test done and was told that they recommended a Macclean CWS100ME, but they also told me i may need a seperate iron filter, all of this came to about 2000 dollars, whirlpool told me that if i used the salt pellets designed for iron water that i would not need a seperate iron filter due to the results. the whirlpool folks did suggest that i get my water tested again, because the result paper that i got did not look right since i have red staining in my toilet bowls, i have purchased a extra large ge whole house filter that i am going to use to replace the small standard filter that i have and hoping that it may work very well, the reason i have the red stains is because we normally changed the cheap standard filter every saturday, but i had to work in honduras for a couple of months and wife did not change the filter, and when i came home never thought about it, actually thinking about shocking the well again and this time do it more like the instructions say, last time, my neighbor who is a plumber (but has now passed away in the last few months) kept telling me i was wasting my time, that i needed a system like he had, that cost around 2500, well after i was done, couple of weeks later ran a glass of water, showed it to him and he was actually amazed at how the red was gone and the back of the toilet bowls where crystal white after i cleaned out the brown sand like residue, which is what i read would happen to iron bacteria after you shock it with chlorine, what are the professional thoughts on this, trying to learn more now that i have to do most of my own plumbing. thanks for any input or advice

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    So the iron is below the .3 or stain level...
    Hardness is not really there..

    So why is it really that you are looking for a softener?

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    not sure if i really need one, going to have my water tested again, for some reason i am not sure that the plumbing company that i went to did not get my test sample confused with a couple of others. I have a whole house cartridge filter that gets clogged up only after about a week or two, depending upon how many loads of clothes my wife washes that week. The filter is red. At the moment, i think i may have iron bacteria because back around may of 2010 i did the shock treatment with a product called safe well, and it cleared my water up until about a couple of months ago. The water was pretty clear and the red stains in the back of the toilets turned into a sand like brown mixture in the bottom of the bowl, which is what i was reading on the forums would happen to iron bacteria if it is shocked. I saw a water test kit at lowes and going to go by this weekend and take a look and see if test for iron bacteria. I am going to look at putting a GE Large Size Whole house water filter on that i picked up at home depot to replace the standard size unit that i now have. The reason i was looking at the softner is because when i was lowes getting some filter i saw the whirlpool units and they said they could filter 10 ppm of iron, i called them and they said that it did it by doing a extra back flush, and if you use the salt that is designed for iron that i also saw at lowes and home depot that it should clear up the iron that i have, just not sure if it will do anything for iron bacteria. I have seen these units by searching the net that inject chlorine down your well a little at a time, but do not know much about them. Thanks for advice and assistance.

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    Check into a BIRM filter. It stands for Best Iron Removal Media. It does not use a regenerante. You set it to backwash every couple of days.

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    Before you get any filter i would suggest getting another sample taken of your water by your local water proffesional or an independant lab or you can contact your local university and they might do it for you. What you are saying your test results are and what you are experiencing are different enough to be suspicious about the original test results. If you have staining yes you probably need filtration of some kind but if you have iron bacteria the most effective method of treatment should be determined after a full water makeup. Mind you a little cost upfront can save you a whole lot down the road.

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    Thanks, i agree, does anyone know of a good way to know if the red is iron, iron bacteria, or sediment, i know the dirt around here is mostly a red clay type work and all of my problems started about 10 years ago when a larger central storage tank was put in for a development up the road from where i live, and it does appear to be more of a issue at times. Also, what about the water test kits you get at lowes? Only seen them, not really read anything on them. I do plan on changing out the small filter with the larger whole house ge filter until i can get everythig tested again, but do not think i will go back to the plumbing supply house.

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