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    Default indoor humidity level

    I have read a lot about indoor humidity level. Some say it should be between 30~40%, others say 40~55%. I also understand it depends on the outside weather temp. For instance, if outside is 0 degrees, one should try to keep the indoor humidity level 30% at most. It is 10 degrees outside, then 35%, 20 degrees 40% and so on so forth.

    I have a whole house humidifier (by honeywell) that looks like this
    Honeywell Whole House Humidifier

    it is fan based, will kick on automatically when furnace supply duct starts supply heat into the house. It is mounted on the supply line and works pretty well.

    I recently got a Hygrometer which can tell the humidity level besides the temp. I noticed my 2nd floor's humidity level is at 47 ~ 50% while the main floor is at 38~40%. The furnace and the whole house humidifer is in the basement. The humidity level there is 35% and almost the same as the main floor. Is this normal? I set the humidity level at 30% on the unit but the house seems to be a bit more humid than the set temp (perhaps this may be due to cooking, people and etc.,)

    My questions are

    1. Is it normal to have the second floor to be more humid than the first? Also the 2nd floor seems a degree or two colder than the main floor (if temp is set at 70 degrees, 2nd floor would be 68~69ish. while humidity level is 7% higher.)

    2. I live in New Jersey (south) what is the desire indoor humidity level during the winter when temp is around 20 to 30 degrees?

    thanks!

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    Normally in design you shoot for 50% RH, plus or minus 5%.
    Ideally, in reference to your change in RH, if you look at a psychrometric chart you can see that if you heat or cool sensibly (no moisture added or taken out just a change in dry bulb temperature (dbt)) you will see that the RH changes, so for example if you are at 75 degrees F and the temperature drops to 70 degrees F (everything else being constant) your RH will increase OR if you are 75 dbt. and raise the temp to 80 degrees dbt your RH will decrease. I think the term RH is really used for more or a comfort level discussion but if you really get into it, the discussion should be around lbs of moisture per lb of dry air which is also shown on the psy chart which does not change with increase or decrease in dbt (again everything else being constant).

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    NEG,
    For those of us with colder winters, you are absolutely correct that it outside air temp is really important - and in fact becomes the main factor in determining inside RH. How is your humidifier controlled? Some installers put the humidistat on the return air plenum of the furnace, where it samples the cold air returning to the furnace. An alternative is to have the 'stat in the living space. The best alternative is to have an integrated humidistat/thermostat, like the Honeywell IAQ stat, which is what I have. It has an outside air temp sensor which provides feedback to the thermostat/humidistat, and like now, where it is 5 F here in Omaha, RH in my house is 21% (being limited by the 'stat). When outside air temp is 25, interior RH runs closer to 35%. It never gets much higher than 35%, in fact.

    Too high RH in a cold climate leads to condensation on windows, which can over time lead to wood rot. I have heard also of cases of overly high RH causing rot inside the walls, if they are not adequately insulated or don't have a decent vapor barrier.

    Not sure why your 2nd level would have higher RH, unless you measured right after using the shower. I would be concerned about RH in the high 40% in the winter.
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    Colder air with the same water content will have a higher rh.
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    Good point, Jim.

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    Humidistats, Hygrometers are notoriously innacurate and fickle. I have 4 in my wine cellar from 5$ to 60$ and they all read different.

    Look on line for a procedure to test them with a saturated salt solution inside a zip lock bag. It will give you the real number. I had one, the 7$ wallymart one that was right on. 3 others needed +10, +23 and +36 to match the good unit. After a year the bad units are still perfectly off by that amount!

    35% sounds awful dry. But then I am hanging Salami and capicola at @ 55F -60% for their aging pleasure.

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