Terry Loves Bellevue & Kirkland
425-649-5683, Top Rated Plumber 1-877-808-5683
Results 1 to 3 of 3

Thread: Effects of freezing on traps and toilet?

  1. #1
    DIY Junior Member krosspen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    3

    Default Effects of freezing on traps and toilet?

    I want to not heat my cabin for weeks in the winter. This year for the first time I have plumbing. I have a valve in the well that allows all the water to drain back to the well when I shut the water off....and to be sure, I blow pressured air via a faucet. Even the pressure tank seems to empty... I hope.

    What about my drains....the toilet, the traps? If the water in those freeze, do the traps and toilet break? ...or does the water just expand to a higher level when freezing, with no damage occurring?

    I mistakenly bought RV Antifreeze.... I see now it is for supply lines, not waste lines. I imagine it would be effective in traps too, but wonder about effect on the septic system.

    Hence my question about what will happen if I don't heat the cabin and there is water in the traps. I even thought of draining the traps and toilet somehow, but then I would have sewer gas building up in cabin, no?

  2. #2
    Retired Defense Industry Engineer jadnashua's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    19,402

    Default

    Water in a toilet will probably crack the toilet when it freezes. The RV antifreeze should work. Put some in each trap in the house. They do make a version for traps, and the quantity needed should not harm a septic system.
    Jim DeBruycker
    Important note - I'm not a pro
    Retired Defense Industry Engineer; Schluter 2.5-day Workshop Completed 2013

  3. #3
    Moderator & Master Plumber hj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Cave Creek, Arizona
    Posts
    23,717

    Default

    It is listed for water lines because it is NOT toxic, but other than that you can use it anywhere you need antifreeze. You CANNOT tell water how to freeze, so it will usually expand in ALL directions. IF it can breakout by cracking something it will, otherwise it WILL expand longitudinally.

Similar Threads

  1. Playing with Traps
    By i960 in forum Plumbing Forum Discussion & Blog
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-16-2010, 02:07 AM
  2. Toilet traps drying out. How to prevent?
    By carnutal in forum Plumbing Forum Discussion & Blog
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 05-27-2009, 09:40 PM
  3. Traps
    By Mark Chuck in forum Plumbing Forum Discussion & Blog
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-18-2008, 01:33 PM
  4. Basement Toilet freezing in the winter
    By mhb22079 in forum Plumbing Forum Discussion & Blog
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 10-24-2006, 09:56 PM
  5. p traps
    By fyrchyk in forum Plumbing Forum Discussion & Blog
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-12-2006, 02:23 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •