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    Default Basement bathtub drain + roughin install gone wrong ?

    Does this make any sense (See pics)

    - The bottom of the tub drain piping spirals in
    a counter clockwise 360 degree sloping upwards turn and goes
    down into the basement cement drainoff.

    Can pex tube talons be legally used for copper pipes?

    Is the copper elbow embedded into stud ok?

    Is abs pipe elbow embedded into stud ok?

    Would like any other feedback.
    Thanks.
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    Wow...

    Usually the trap isn't poured over with concrete because you can't align it to the drain then...

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    I would agree with the title of the thread- install gone wrong.

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    The bottom of the tub drain piping spirals in
    a counter clockwise 360 degree sloping upwards turn and goes
    down into the basement cement drainoff.


    Pretty strange. Is there a p-trap buried in the ground that it goes into?
    Normally there is an boxed out area of the concrete that allows for proper placement of the drain.

    Can pex tube talons be legally used for copper pipes?

    Sure, I use plastic talons for copper all the time. They are the same exteiror dimension.


    Is the copper elbow embedded into stud ok?

    Yes, It's done all the time.

    Is abs pipe elbow embedded into stud ok?

    Yes, it's done all the time.

    The pipe on the drain is a worry though. I don't know how that would ever be snaked for hair removal.

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    Another handyman attempt at plumbing. Almost all of the pex joints are stressed. The tube talons on the copper piping work..but are not the proper installation method for a reason, the drop elbow for the shower arm isn't even screwed into backing, and the drain is a mess as you know.

    You should have this looked at before you close everything up.
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    Thanks for the suggestions.


    RE: Pretty strange. Is there a p-trap buried in the ground that it goes into?
    -- P-trap was suppose to be roughed in with toilet and sink venting when
    foundation was poured.

    What is the way to unstress the pipes?


    Is this the proper way to go?

    - Definately break the concrete and align the overflow vertically
    down directly into the p-trap under the cement floor instead of
    the "hacked" spiral piping.

    Is that spiral piping compliant to code or is allowed?

    - Plastic tube talons to be replaced with copper straps + brass screws.
    - Drop ear to be screwed into a stud.

    Hopefully everthing else meets code.


    Thanks.

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    Ever tried to push water uphill? That is what the tub drain is trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgez View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions.


    RE: Pretty strange. Is there a p-trap buried in the ground that it goes into?
    -- P-trap was suppose to be roughed in with toilet and sink venting when
    foundation was poured.

    What is the way to unstress the pipes?


    Is this the proper way to go?

    - Definately break the concrete and align the overflow vertically
    down directly into the p-trap under the cement floor instead of
    the "hacked" spiral piping.

    Is that spiral piping compliant to code or is allowed?

    - Plastic tube talons to be replaced with copper straps + brass screws.
    - Drop ear to be screwed into a stud.

    Hopefully everthing else meets code.


    Thanks.
    That plumbing is honestly just very very bad. And no it's not code compliant.

    You need to jack hammer out the drain and redo everything. It's that simple.

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