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    I don't see what all the fuss is about but this is another example of why I still just don't get Americans, even after living here so long.

    I know that you are all afraid of terrorism. I know you all want to be safe. I know you love rules.

    But have to have a little airport pat down and you start shouting freedom this and freedom that.

    So what's it gonna be? Safe with rules? Or dead but free?

    I just don't get it.

    And you know I don't get it.

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    I don't fly, anywhere. I've never been on a plane and probably never will.

    There have been more rules engaged under this presidency than any other I've seen.

    Are they all good? Some of them.


    I wish they'd ban smoking completely in indoor and outdoor establishments.

    That and alcohol. Worse than crack and heroin, combined. No one needs to feel "different"... get used to life.

    In Cincinnati, those f***tards are trying to ban meat on mondays, for a healthier community.

    In a socialist society, you lose your freedoms so your neighbor enjoys the same equality as you.
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    If you don't like pat downs, you can do the screening. I would rather everyone be screened before I hop on a plane.
    I'll be first in line for the screening. And I will skip the pat down thank you, though I will get a pat down tomorrow at the Seahawks game, Darn.




    In Washington State, there is no smoking indoors. And in public arena's no smoking outdoors.
    You can still smoke in the parking lot.
    When I flew to Detroit, I couldn't find a place outside at the airport where someone wasn't lighting up. I had to keep moving and moving.
    Ridicules.
    I was skiing today at Snoqualie Pass, I didn't see any smoking there. Not a lot of snow, but what there was of it was good quality powder to ski on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunbar Plumbing View Post
    I don't fly, anywhere. I've never been on a plane and probably never will.

    I wish they'd ban smoking completely in indoor and outdoor establishments.

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    I have only flown once since 9/11. Not that I travel that much anyway, but I was somewhat freaked out. I was booked on an American Airlines flight on 9/11. Not THOSE flights, of course...flying from SD to Boston. That was of course cancelled, and I did not fly again until 2009, when a family wedding forced my hand! Took some train trips , which are a lot more fun than flying. ( lot more expensive, too!) Unfortunatley, I have to fly again on Dec. 15 ( another family wedding!). Not looking forward. I will take the scan, just to get it over with.

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    I find it humorous that a middle-aged middle-eastern man probably will pass without a pat down or scan....

    We can't be profiling now can we...

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    Redwood is back from the holiday. I thought it had been quiet around here.

    NO, we cannot profile people because you are all a nation of immigrants. So there is nobody to profile.

    And you have never blamed the crimes of the few on the many.

    We (the English) taught you that. The first immigrants to this Great Country.

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    Welcome back Red. Do you remember when our nation of immigrants rounded up the Japanese, the Italians and the Germans in WW2? How well do you know the history of WW2?

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    While we all value your contribution Cookie, and especially that of your father, the 400,000 Americans sacrificed in World War II is a drop in the ocean to the 50 million Europeans that lost their lives in that conflict. Which is why religion has not done so well there as it has here.

    Lots of death in lots of families tends to dent church numbers.

    Your check book was what counted most. And those debts have been repayed.

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    Yeah, my dad was one of the men who marched into one of the concentration camps with busted ear drums and what would be the word, helped those who was being held against their will. But, the rounding up I was referring to Ian, was that in America here. Did you not understand?

    You may not believe this, but money is the one want of mine that is on the bottom of the list. I value other things greater.

    I should add too, that my mom was quite unique, in WW2, at age 18, she was assembling aircraft.
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    Looking at that map,


    It would appear that some of those countries don't know how to fight a war, and win. Prosper and thrive with your dignity and honor or pay with your misgivings that forfeit life.
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    Let's also add that a few countries came a little late to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    I don't see what all the fuss is about but this is another example of why I still just don't get Americans, even after living here so long.

    I know that you are all afraid of terrorism. I know you all want to be safe. I know you love rules.

    But have to have a little airport pat down and you start shouting freedom this and freedom that.

    So what's it gonna be? Safe with rules? Or dead but free?

    I just don't get it.

    And you know I don't get it.
    I favor "safe with rules" over "dead but free". I travel almost weekly for my job and I've not had any problems. Just last week I heard a lady call in to NPR and complain about a "friend of a friend" who was "all but molested" going through security. Please.

    In this fast-paced world of instant gratification, people believe that any kind of inconvenience they've experienced legitimizes their ranting and bitching. It's almost shameful, imo.

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    If he looks like Tom Hanks, I'm in.

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    Looks like we are bailing out Europe.

    They can't run their country so we will.




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    No you are not. The US proportion of total IMF funding is about 17 percent. To give more, would require congressional approval.

    If Spain goes, you won't be able to afford to bail us out anyway.

    Speaking of bail outs, I really hope the tax cuts for high earners here (above $250K) are not extended. The US just can't afford them right now.

    And the rich here just save their money rather than spend it, so there is very little prospect of any increased tax on the rich denting jobs despite the hype.

    Rich people paying taxes? Boo hoo. Poor them. They need to man up. Like the rest of America.

    I find it incredible that the rich here have such a sense of entitlement to not paying taxes. I would have thought their parents would have raised them better.
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