JWelectric
Electrical Contractor/Instructor
This goes to prove my statementAnd Marne Rock, I would stop being a slave to obtuse code written by engineers that never were in the field.
for it is not engineers that write the NEC but instead it is people just like you and me that write the NEC. In the back of ever NEC book is a proposal that even you can fill out in order to have some section of the NEC changed. Over the years I have written many that was accepted into the next code cycleOne of the funniest things I have ever seen or read was someone with little or no knowledge of something standing on a podium shouting out wrong information.
Are you asking two questions here or are you making a statement and asking one question?Got a pile of breakers and older boxes with bizzare combinations of metals. Rusted, corroded in wires and screws. But hey! Your odd reading of that ridiculous piece of nonsensical code should be followed blindly. I would opt for the safe side, and I wonder how no corrode, anti seize paste can be a safety issue.
Any type of compound used on wires and terminals MUST be approved for the application. Could you see someone using Teflon anti- seize on an electrical installation. The Teflon would act as an insulator and impede the flow of current. All types of “anti-seize†is forbidden from use on electrical connections of any kind as the anti-seize is not a conductor of electrical current.
If you had one ounce of knowledge of electrical you would know that aluminum is not used in direct contact with earth for any reason. You would also know what a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory was and what their job in the electrical trade was. Ever hear lf such laboratories such as UL, Met ect….?What do the dopes at NEC have to say about ground rod connectors? Some are aluminum, on rebar, with steel screws. Some are plated brass with steel fittings of the lowest quality. Some are aluminum on a galvanized rod. Out in the rain. Got physics? Or better, got an NEC enforcement agency watching every manufacturer from China to India to Detroit for their metallic choices? They only respond after someone gets toasted, if then.
Again you show your ignorance with the statement of saving a live with a rusted ground connection. The earth plays no role in your safety when it comes to electrical current flow. A careful read of 250.4 will explain the four reasons we connect to earth and clearing a fault is not one of them.Test the resistance after 10 years on the ones without anti seize or no corrode paste. That is IF you can get a connection through the rusted rotten clamp thats ready to fall apart. A little paste might save a life. If NEC had a clue you would paste it, ball it with putty [not play dough] and shrink tube it. THATS safety at work.
YOUR COPPER IS ROTTED AWAY?????? Damn if you ain’t good. You have successfully done something that can’t be done. If the telephone technician bonded to your copper water pipe then the electrical system is required to be bonded to you copper pipe also so therefore the telephone technician did a good job.The telephone company NEC reading imbecile installed a steel ground clamp on my 1" copper main water line, which is not in the earth anyway. Pipe is almost rotted through, and the clamp too. Bet he had a code book in the car, next to his bud light.
CAUTION---- If you copper water pipes have rotted away you need to hire a plumber before you start having water leaks.
"Now I might be one of those code nuts but I know that once the NEC is adopted it becomes law. "
Well I just don’t understand what all these laws have to do with the building codes of America but you are correct that the law is the law and must be adhered to no matter where you are in this world.Germany once adopted a law …Try to buy a gun in England or most of Europe…North Korea has law…But thats the LAW, laws must be followed.
And once again you prove that you have a lot to learn. Any man who has been “happily†married for any amount of time knows that a woman is ALWAYS right and us poor old lonely men are just plain wrong. Men should always apologize to women. Notice the spelling of a-p-o-l-o-g-i-z-e. Do you see there is no “s†in the word. Now go hug your wife and apologize to her and tell her how unworthy you are to have someone so smart looking after you, you will find a more tranquil life after doing this.And by the way, I apologise for asking anyone to apologise. I notice when I ask my wife that, dishes usually start flying no matter how wrong she might be.