Gary, you just dont backfill around well casing that is allowing surface water to enter a well, there is a proper procedure to it. That is my point, there is much more to it than what you assume, and i remember what you said there is no need for me to go back on anything because it would just give me a headache. I dont care what kind of well work other people do, i only do it the right way so if someone is going to ask my opinion on an issue such as surface water entering a water well, then i will tell them to contact a professional to have it inspected and sealed properly. They should in fact hire someone that is licensed and qualified because most out there have to go by strict guidelines. If some out there dont do it the way it should be done, it doesn't mean that we all do it wrong. You seem to twist and turn things until people just get fead up with you to a point where they start ripping into you and that is your strategy because you know the moderators know nothing about how certain well issues should be resolved but they wont put up with the arguing.