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    I have to say researching whole house water filters can be difficult. Lots of hyperbole and no documentation. I currently have a water softener with a WS-1 valve. My ward is hard and stinks of chlorine. I figured it was time to start filtering my water and stop buying bottled water. I have looked into so many units on the net and I'm confused to say the least.

    I do not want an RO system. I'm leaning towards KDF Catalytic Carbon types.

    I have read I can retrofit my softener with a CanPro MediaGuard, but have read about mixed results.

    Do I want a system that backwahes? If so, why do so many leading whole house filters omit backwashing(Aquasanna, Crystal Quest, Pelican, etc)?

    My ears are open? I appreciate any advice.
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    Although it is not a good idea to remove chlorine on a whole house (POE) basis because the chlorine is needed to control bacteria, if you want whole house filtering, go with a backwashed regular (coconut) carbon filter sized for your peak demand flow rate gpm.

    If you want drinking water only filtration, use a disposable carbon block cartridge in a housing under the sink with a no air gap RO faucet.

    The mass marketed filters you mention are for the uninformed consumer.
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    While the CanPro works it drops the flow rate like a stone, used them in the past and customers where not real happy.

    If the softener is doing a good job with the hardness but the smell and chlorine are the challenge then carbon..

    Depending on the size of your place in the flow rate needed as to cubic feet of carbon needed to treat the water.. off hand I would say at least 2 cubic foot if not 3 cubic with a back washing valve or control on top of the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rldev View Post
    I have to say researching whole house water filters can be difficult. Lots of hyperbole and no documentation. I currently have a water softener with a WS-1 valve. My ward is hard and stinks of chlorine. I figured it was time to start filtering my water and stop buying bottled water. I have looked into so many units on the net and I'm confused to say the least.

    I do not want an RO system. I'm leaning towards KDF Catalytic Carbon types.

    I have read I can retrofit my softener with a CanPro MediaGuard, but have read about mixed results.

    Do I want a system that backwahes? If so, why do so many leading whole house filters omit backwashing(Aquasanna, Crystal Quest, Pelican, etc)?

    My ears are open? I appreciate any advice.
    So you are essentially saying you do not recommend whole house filters to city water users?
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    There are 2 schools of thought when it comes to removing the chlorine from the water, those that say no way and then those that say that it is ok..
    The City is doing it to make sure that the water in their system is safe, but then in your house it is your call.
    I would pull the chlorine out of the water.
    Research chlorine and by-protucts in the water.

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    Disposable cartridge type filters are not POE (point of entry) or "whole house" filters. They were meant to be and are POU (point of use) filters and mass marketers misrepresent/misapply them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akpsdvan View Post
    While the CanPro works it drops the flow rate like a stone, used them in the past and customers where not real happy.

    If the softener is doing a good job with the hardness but the smell and chlorine are the challenge then carbon..

    Depending on the size of your place in the flow rate needed as to cubic feet of carbon needed to treat the water.. off hand I would say at least 2 cubic foot if not 3 cubic with a back washing valve or control on top of the tank.
    My house is 2700 sqft. 3 full bathrooms. Only 4 of us here. What would you suggest? My municipality started using Chloramines, doesn't that require KDF media?

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    No they don't.

    Any large tubs or body spray type showers?
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    Carbon will work for the removal of chloamines, with the size of your house I would use 2.5 cubic.

    KDF would work, but there is KDF-55 for Chlorine and KDF-85 for H2S...so you would need a mix of the two, where with carbon will handle both with no mixing of the carbon.

    KDF is also going to need a larger gallon per minute flow rate for the back washing than the carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slusser View Post
    No they don't.

    Any large tubs or body spray type showers?

    Two standard sized tubs. Regular showers. We would never be using more than 2 bathrooms at once. I do plan on adding a few shower jets to master bath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slusser View Post
    No they don't.

    Any large tubs or body spray type showers?

    Two standard sized tubs. Regular showers. We would never be using more than 2 bathrooms at once. I do plan on adding a few shower jets to master bath.

    So I guess coconut carbon will remove most things with the exception of heavy metals correct?

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    Have you looked up what the coconut and activated carbons can and can not remove?

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    Yes seems good. Not sure where to buy from. I am going to do a thorough water test this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rldev View Post
    Two standard sized tubs. Regular showers. We would never be using more than 2 bathrooms at once. I do plan on adding a few shower jets to master bath.
    Then a 1.5 or 2 cuft backwashed filter would normally allow years before carbon replacement would be needed.
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    HydroFLOW protects a whole house from limescale using radio waves in an electric field. they have sizes for all diameters of pipe.
    It also combats bacteria. check out HydroFLOW on google and you will find lots of good stories.
    The hydroflow also reduces the taste of chlorine in the water.
    I wouldn't use a salt based softener, as they need maintenance and you can't always drink the water.

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