Wow, I feel privileged to have started a thread needing to be closed! That said, I've promised my wife that we would make a habit of buying quality products for replacement issues, and after most likely having multiple issues with the low end sears softener, will be upgrading. I've got one inch plumbing, a house with a wife, 2 growing girls, a pool that fills off of the softener, a dishwasher that runs @ every 3 days, a clothes washer, toilets, showers, sinks, and an icemaker in the fridge to supply! What would be your recommendation for brand, size and ballpark price? And are there any drawbacks to running potassium instead of salt? thanks for all your replies. Chris
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Depending on the water test with the iron, hardness .. a Fleck Twin 9100 with 1.5 cubic in each tank might be the way to go.
You might have a dealer around you that could sell you one and put it in your self if you can do the work.
I know that one of the suppliers that I use is in Arizona..
Could be in the 2k range.
You might have a dealer around you that could sell you one and put it in your self if you can do the work.
I know that one of the suppliers that I use is in Arizona..
Could be in the 2k range.
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I assume AK is suggesting a twin tank softener because you use softened water to fill your pool.
You can buy a 1.5 cubic foot/per tank Fleck 9100 SXT softener complete and delivered from an internet supplier for $950 +/-.
Potassium chloride is much more expensive than sodium chloride on a per pound basis and you need to use more per unit of hardness removed.
The amount of sodium added at typical hardness levels is small relative to the sodium content of common foods so for most people it is not a health concern.
You can buy a 1.5 cubic foot/per tank Fleck 9100 SXT softener complete and delivered from an internet supplier for $950 +/-.
Potassium chloride is much more expensive than sodium chloride on a per pound basis and you need to use more per unit of hardness removed.
The amount of sodium added at typical hardness levels is small relative to the sodium content of common foods so for most people it is not a health concern.
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The size of softener you need will be partially determined by your water analysis so you need to post that to get informed advice about the size.
If you only use small amounts at a time for the pool then a Fleck 7000 would probably meet your needs. In a 1.5 cubic foot unit the internet price for that unit is $550 +/- delivered.
If you only use small amounts at a time for the pool then a Fleck 7000 would probably meet your needs. In a 1.5 cubic foot unit the internet price for that unit is $550 +/- delivered.
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I think I would probably have a by pass installed for the pool auto fill. Fleck or Clack would be my choice. A metered demand valve will save you better salt efficiency.
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A typical vinyl pool would have 200 PPM calcium. A concrete or plaster pool would typically have more. It is all about "balance"--to achieve a situation where the water doesn't tend to etch minerals from what it comes in contact with but also doesn't tend to precipitate minerals.
To a degree there is a trade off (balancing) with other important parameters--pH, alkalinity, and total chlorine, temperature and TDS.
NHmaster3015
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keep your autofill from filling the pool with soft water
the auto fill is @ 60 ft under concrete away from the closest hard water source, so that option is out. i actually prefer having soft water for the pool, i definitely use less chemicals with it. thanks for all your input. the bypass off of the sears, will that work for other softeners or will the new one come with it's own model specific?
The Sears bypass will not work on any of the Fleck valve that we have been talking about, so you would need to get a bypass with the unit and a yoke of either 1" or 3/4" depending on the pipe that you are dealing with.
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The prices I posted earlier in the thread included a bypass. With Fleck valves you have a choice of using a yoke (a connection only) or a bypass which incorporates a valve along with connections.
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NO pool company that I have ever heard of recommends soft water into a swimming pool. It will "dissolve" the plaster finish. The evaporation is also substantial during the summer months.
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