I'd like to use a wax-free toilet seal on a new toilet I'm installing. There's a 90-degree bend in the waste pipe right at the flange, so I know it presents a challenge. I have both Fernco and Fluidmaster seals to try.
The Fernco looks short enough to fit before the bend, but it's REALLY hard to press it in the 3-inch (exact inside measurement) pipe. It took much of my body weight and some contortions during a test fit, even with soapy water on the seal. It seems like that would be difficult to do once it's glued to the toilet and can't easily be seen or moved around. Is this normal for the Fernco, or is there a trick I don't know about?
With its o-ring design, the Fluidmaster goes in firmly but easily. Because of the 90-degree pipe bend, however, the seal stands about 1/4" proud of where the toilet bottom would rest.
It looks like a possible fix for the Fluidmaster would be to cut off about 3/8" from the bottom of the plastic cone. The o-ring should still roll into place during installation and provide a tight seal. Has anyone tried shortening the Fluidmaster seal this way?
The Fernco seal can be found here: http://www.fernco.com/plumbing/wax-free-toilet-seal
The Fuildmaster seal can be found here: http://www.fluidmaster.com/index.asp?bhcp=1
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The Fernco looks short enough to fit before the bend, but it's REALLY hard to press it in the 3-inch (exact inside measurement) pipe. It took much of my body weight and some contortions during a test fit, even with soapy water on the seal. It seems like that would be difficult to do once it's glued to the toilet and can't easily be seen or moved around. Is this normal for the Fernco, or is there a trick I don't know about?
With its o-ring design, the Fluidmaster goes in firmly but easily. Because of the 90-degree pipe bend, however, the seal stands about 1/4" proud of where the toilet bottom would rest.
It looks like a possible fix for the Fluidmaster would be to cut off about 3/8" from the bottom of the plastic cone. The o-ring should still roll into place during installation and provide a tight seal. Has anyone tried shortening the Fluidmaster seal this way?
The Fernco seal can be found here: http://www.fernco.com/plumbing/wax-free-toilet-seal
The Fuildmaster seal can be found here: http://www.fluidmaster.com/index.asp?bhcp=1
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