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    Hey guys my softner is giving me some headaches. I originally had trouble turning the dial, so I called a service who came out and replaced my seals and told me my piston was stuck. Ever since then everytime the softner regenerates it gets stuck somewhere during the cycle and the house is subject to nasty Florida well water. I disected the water softner today and sprayed PB Blaster on the piston thinking that maybe it is still getting hung up. I also replaced the timer first thinking that was the issue, I was thinking the timer was getting weak. That didnt solve my issue. Thoughts? Any help would be appreciated.

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    Type of softener in Question?
    If it is the Fleck 5600 then there is a wheel in the powerhead assembly that could be with either a missing tooth or a worn tooth so that the rotation is hanging up..
    If there is a wheel that is a problem then that wheel in going to need replacing, often it is the one that runs from the front to the rear and is the one that the piston is attached to so that the piston moves up and down.

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    It is a Fleck, I inspected the teeth, but I will re inspect. Thank you

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    There could also be some thing a miss with the springs and bearings between the wheel and the plate. You can find them in the manual in the parts break down for the powerhead on the 5600.

    How old is the unit in question? does it live out side or in side?

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    The timer motor does go bad in that model.

    I would suspect the timer motor before a valve problem.


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    There is another thing that I have done, that is take the power head off the valve body and see how well it turns and runs through a cycle once you start a cycle.
    if it runs the cycle with out hanging up or it turns easy then there is some thing a miss in the piston and seal pack assembly.

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    It is four years old and is outside. For the first three years I kept the head assembly covered with a bucket, the bucket broke and it spent the next year exposed. I have covered it back up since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishknut View Post
    It is four years old and is outside. For the first three years I kept the head assembly covered with a bucket, the bucket broke and it spent the next year exposed. I have covered it back up since.

    LOL.

    Now that is as funny as hell.

    I almost fell off of my rocker.

    lol
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    Sun could have played a part in plastic break down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    LOL.

    Now that is as funny as hell.

    I almost fell off of my rocker.

    lol
    What did I miss?

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    Think that it had some thing to do with the bucket on its head ....

    Let the mind go from there.....

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    Ok latest update, I went out to check the timer and it's working properly, but now water is spurting out of the base of the piston. I'm thinking the PB Blaster ruined my new seals. I'm doing a manual regen to see if it will flush the area and stop the flow. Thanks for help Ak

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    I would agree that the blaster may have broken down the rubber in the seals and the o ring that is around the piston and the end cap...
    The end cap can be fixed with a new quad ring.. dental pick to get the old one out and then getting the new one in... done it any number of times..
    But so much today is take it to the dump and put in total new and not replace just what needs to be replaced...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishknut View Post
    Ok latest update, I went out to check the timer and it's working properly, but now water is spurting out of the base of the piston. I'm thinking the PB Blaster ruined my new seals. I'm doing a manual regen to see if it will flush the area and stop the flow. Thanks for help Ak


    A silicon spray or jelly is safe, but PB Blaster may not fit that application.

    We use the Redneck Bucket Protectors in Texas also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Akpsdvan View Post
    I would agree that the blaster may have broken down the rubber in the seals and the o ring that is around the piston and the end cap...
    The end cap can be fixed with a new quad ring.. dental pick to get the old one out and then getting the new one in... done it any number of times..
    But so much today is take it to the dump and put in total new and not replace just what needs to be replaced...
    Well I'm joining the group of throwing out the old and replacing it. The wife is driving me nuts because our water is horrible when unsoftened. I appreciate your help, I will definitley takes steps to keep the unit covered and out of the elements. Happy New Year, thanks again.

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