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    New Year drunks should pay for hospital care?

    LONDON (Reuters Life!) Excessive drinking over New Year's Eve could cost Britain's National Health Service as much as 23 million pounds, according to a report on Thursday which recommends drunks be charged a hospital admission fee of 532 pounds ($845.9).

    "Alcohol misuse in Britain is at a level where it constitutes a public health epidemic," said the report by the right-leaning Policy Exchange think-tank.

    Direct costs to the state-funded NHS, which provides free health care for Britons, are nearly 3 billion a year, with hospital admissions for alcohol intoxication doubling in a decade, it added.

    The government should review its entire strategy for tackling the harms from alcohol misuse, it advised.

    "We recommend that the costs of being admitted to hospital to sleep off alcoholic excess should be met by individuals, not the NHS," said Henry Featherstone, head of the think-tamk's health unit.

    "Those admitted to hospital for less than 24 hours with acute alcohol intoxication should be charged the NHS tariff cost for their admission of 532 pounds."

    That amount would be reduced for those paying the costs of their own alcohol education and awareness course.

    Department of Health figures confirm that total annual healthcare cost relating to alcohol misuse amounts to about 2.7 billion pounds a year.

    (Reporting by Stephen Addison; Editing by Stefano Ambrogi and Paul Casciato)

    ($1=.6289 Pound)
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091231/od_nm/us_hangovers
    Call it a sin tax I guess...
    I thought the Irish were the drunks?

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    Yeah, on my dad's side our family reunions are held at the AA meetings.

    ( only kidding )
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    They should go back to Prohibition...at least there were a lot fewer drunks driving...people wouldn't flaunt it, fewer assaults and family problems, fewer pregnancy's, and life would just generally be a whole lot better without it...

    Can any one tell me one good thing that comes about from drinking...

    and if you have one how does it balance with all the bad that comes from drinking...
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    Sorry about the late response. My internet connection has been down and I have only just been able to brave the cold and fix it with some new Coax connectors.

    Anyway, all I am saying is drinking is a hell of a lot better than guns. A large part of that health care bill is because of drunken fights.

    Which also means the article is nonsense, because an equally large part is probably sober people being injured by drunks, who would therefore not need to pay under the mish mash they are proposing.

    You don't get injured in fights in the US because people are cowardly and just kill each other with guns instead. And death is cheap.

    Trust the Americans to favor death over state-paid healthcare costs. God forbid your neighbor's injury should cost you anything. Scrooges.

    And drinking in moderation has been shown to have health benefits.

    No Guns, some Gin, less God and more Government. That's what y'all need. And y'all is not a word!

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    I would say Jesus likes a gun or two.

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    Guns are not Godly.

    Wine is.

    So alcohol wins.

    And how do I know that is really Jesus and not just Scuba Dave standing aloft his new addition?

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    Moderation.....doesn't sound like it
    Wine ? Not what they were drinking I'll bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post


    Can any one tell me one good thing that comes about from drinking...

    and if you have one how does it balance with all the bad that comes from drinking...

    No takers on this one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post
    No takers on this one...
    I think drinking in moderation is acceptable, do you actually propose prohibition? Prohibition made more problems than it solved, IMO.

    I don't understand it when people drink to get "wrecked", repeating the actions week after week. I drink only a handful of times a year and then only one or two drinks, the last time I went overboard was 2-1/2 years ago.
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    tell me one thing good that somes from drinking and does it out weigh the bad..?

    That was the question...

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    Tax Cass, and yes it probably does.

    Like we should be doing with your gas to offset all the bad that does.

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    I don't think they should start fees
    Just increase the taxes for everybody so the Govt will have enough $$ to cover it
    I mean free should be free right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Tax Cass, and yes it probably does.

    Like we should be doing with your gas to offset all the bad that does.
    WoW...all the innocent deaths, murders, pregnancys, beatings, broken homes, destroyed lives, Etc. are worth a little tax money....why the tax money generated couldn't even pay for all the problems booz causes....


    Your mind is warped...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post
    No takers on this one...
    Nope...

    Alcohol is different though....
    http://www.courant.com/community/nor...,0,33771.story
    You can get drunk, drive, kill someone and...
    get a 10 month jail sentence which in all reality about a 5 month stay in Hotel Greybar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post
    tell me one thing good that somes from drinking and does it out weigh the bad..?

    That was the question...
    In moderation? A glass of wine a day lowers your odds of heart attack.

    In excess? No.
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