Toto Aquia dual flush toilet product review, comments and posts.

**Peanut9199** · 09-15-2009, 10:55 AM

It's funny i remember when Honda was starting to manufactuer cars in North America and everyone thought the quality would go down and now you wouldn't think anything about it.

rt · 09-18-2009, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Terry

I haven't had any problems with the units made in China from Toto.

Toto seems to be very strict as to what they expect.

Thanks Terry - good to know.

peanut9199 - I hear what you're saying - not trying to kick up an outsourcing discussion here. Just get nervous when I see the Made in China label - melamine in food, lead in toys, etc. - all pretty scary stuff happening there - not much regulatory pressure or oversight I guess and when the companies aren't paying attention or don't care then it's basically a crap shoot. The comments from Jadnashua and Terry do a lot to reassure me about Toto keeping an eye on the QA stuff.

**nyc_** · 10-05-2009, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Peanut9199

There is a 10" coming soon CST416MF.10 Universal Height as well as 10".
The price book says "Available 3Q09" 3rd quarter of 2009, but with Toto i would say to be safe 1st quarter of 2010.

Any update on the availability of a 10" Aquia? I noticed you are in Canada...is this supposed to be available in the US also?

**Terry** · 10-05-2009, 01:58 PM

TOTO has an Eco Drake 10" rough now
CST744EF.10

**nyc_** · 10-05-2009, 02:11 PM

Thanks...I saw that on the site, but was hoping for a sleeker look with a narrower profile and skirted design.

I know if I give up Dual Flush or Eco 1.28Gpf, I can go with the Carlyle or Carolina, but those are more expensive since they are 1-piece.

**Runs with bison** · 10-05-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Peanut9199

It's funny i remember when Honda was starting to manufactuer cars in North America and everyone thought the quality would go down and now you wouldn't think anything about it.

Yep, the problem wasn't/isn't in those doing the work, it was in the mindset of the engineering/design, project, and production management. Those producers that accept shoddy work, get shoddy work.

**danglus** · 10-05-2009, 08:13 PM

I installed the Aquia ii a few weeks ago, it went in easy once I bought some glavanized lag bolts instead of the supplied screws.

My question is this.....the toilet has been working great, it is not leaking. The tank has a little bit of a wobble to it, I am afraid of overtightening the tank screws. Is a little wobble okay....or should i keep tightening? The bowl does not wobble thanks to some composite shims.

Thanks for a great site and a great resource!

**adenwork2** · 10-05-2009, 08:23 PM

when Honda was starting to manufactuer cars in North America and everyone thought the quality would go down

Quality did go down. Fit and finish and other non cosmetic problems were worse in my newer N.A. built Honda than an old Honda. The new one had the usual routine transmission failure far far below 100,000 miles. Along with many other issues present from the beginning. Dealer claimed no problems existed. Friends driving the car found the problems without any hints. But it took a year of repeat visits to get most of them fixed. Dealer tries to shine on and blame the owner for the transmission but it is a common problem on some years V6 models. Even Consumer Reports found this out. The car was assembled in North America. The transmission was made in JAPAN. Yes, I did far more transmission maintenance than the Severe schedule and have not towed. I would not compare Toto with Honda unless you were trying to insult Toto.

**Runs with bison** · 10-05-2009, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by adenwork2

The new one had the usual routine transmission failure far far below 100,000 miles.

Never heard of one on a their cars failing below 100,000 miles actually... Mine had no trouble in the 150,000 mile range and the motor and transmission acted like they would run forever. Was yours a minivan (Odyssey)? All of the minivan makers seem to have serious problems with short transmission life--about the same lifetime as an F150's (70-80K).

Domestic makers had a lot of trouble with transmissions lasting only 20K or so. I remember having a discussion with a coworker where he insisted that there was no difference. I then asked him how many transmissions his suburban had...it was on #3 at 80K.

Based on what I've seen I would rank my Nissan as the most reliable, my Honda #2, Toyota #3, and then dragging in miles behind would be Chevy/Chrysler/Ford. Good luck picking out which one of those three was worst...but they did have AMC beat.

**blues** · 11-02-2009, 07:30 PM

Done by professionals. Two questions. First, the screw caps for the slow closing seat aren't attached to the seat. They seem to be attached originally but broken. Can someone let me know if the caps are attached? Second, seems I need to hold the big flush button for a second or two, otherwise the flush is pretty weak, actually weaker than the small flush. For a while, I thought something is wrong. Then I pushed and held and it seemed to work. Can someone confirm that the big flush requires holding down the button for a bit? Thanks.

**Terry** · 11-03-2009, 10:19 AM

the screw caps for the slow closing seat aren't attached to the seat. They seem to be attached originally but broken.

I need to hold the big flush button for a second or two, otherwise the flush is pretty weak,

The caps on the seat come attached, but if you haven't pressed the caps down, and then work the seat up and down, it can snap them off.
They should be pressed down before the seat is opened or closed.
Once the tab is broken, you can still press them down, but it doesn't look as nice.

You may need longer pushrods on the button.
If you call Toto tech support, they can mail you longer pushrods, sometimes a rod 1/4" longer is all that is needed.
In the interim, you can place a coin under the button to space it out a bit.

**blues** · 11-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Thanks, Terry. You're the greatest.

**jcvb** · 11-03-2009, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

Toto Aquia dual flush toilet

The Aquia meets Ansi/Asme standards as well as the IAPMO/UPC codes.

PDF spec file sheet

I have some on order for the Seattle area now.
MaP rating 800 grams
The trapway is 2-5/8"

How does this compare to the Drake? Does the dualmax flushing clean the bowl well when it comes to solid waste? Is the same flushing technology as the Drake?

**Firemark** · 11-03-2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by jcvb

How does this compare to the Drake? Does the dualmax flushing clean the bowl well when it comes to solid waste? Is the same flushing technology as the Drake?

I can't compare results to the Drake but I bought two of the Aquia IIIs a couple of months ago. No issues at all so far. The issue of "streaking" is rare, about the same as with my old dinosaur 3.5GPF. It usually washes down by itself during the refill process. Once or twice I've just hit the #1 button to clear things up. (I just knew I shouldn't have had those bean burrittos!).

**blues** · 11-09-2009, 03:44 PM

Have used the Aquia II for a week now. Flushing seems to be strong after using a coin per Terry's advice. Got the longer stick from Toto today which worked as well.

However, because of the low water mark, there's quite a bit of residuals from solid waste every time. A little annoying to say the least.

Some people drop a square or two of paper down first.
That, and the bowl gets better after a couple of weeks.
New bowls seem sticky, but that being said, it's styled more like toilets in other parts of the world, with less water in the bowl.
The Drake bowl with Sanagloss will stay cleaner.
Terry