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    DIY Junior Member Paulinien's Avatar
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    Question Toilet whith two drains...

    Hello everybody!

    Is there anyone who have a idea what kind of toilet it is and how to install it?
    I bought it from a particular, brand new never installed and later before I decide to intall it I was in shock seeing two drains. I went to different stores and no one is able to help me or to tell what it is.
    Now I can't return it. That's my problem.
    This toilet as two drains. Why's that? What's the purpose of having two drains? One of the drains is patch whith a thin film of plastic.
    I'm thinking of when i'll have this toilet stock what I'm i gona do Unclogging a Toilet Using a Closet Auger it will for shure destroy the drain's patch whith a small film of plastic.
    Is there anyone out there who can help me to resolve my problems?
    Any suggestions?

    Thanks for your answers,

    Paulinien
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    I don't know why it was made that way, but I do know you are going to have a devil of a time securing it to the floor, because the bolt holes are not on either side of EITHER opening, so you will not be able to fasten it to a conventional flange. AND once the toilet is in position, HOW will you get inside it to tighten whatever means you do use to secure it. I think you have the makings of a very unique flower pot, because that is the only thing I would use it for.

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    Question Need a expert for toilet ...

    Need help to know why this toilet has been made like this.
    Thanks for the answer HJ !
    But for shure there is a reason for that toilet to exist.
    I don't know how I'm going to install that thing!
    Is there any expert or anybody that have been seing that kind of toilet
    anywhere and is it possible to know more about it?
    I dont want to loose my money but it seems that I have bought something very particular.
    I'm waiting for all your answers,
    Thanks
    Paulinien

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    Are both of those holes actually through to the water trapway? Or is one of them plugged, meaning it is a manufacturing process port?

    What brand? Obviously designed to be used with some kind of special adapter, or it is a toilet for the space shuttle, or it is Russian???

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    Question Need help...

    Both holes are communicant.
    The brand Unknown!
    No Brand on the toilet.
    For shure it's from China.
    It come's with dual flush 3and 6 litres.

    Thanks for answers,
    Paulinien

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    Personaly I would deep six the toilet and stop wasting time trying to make something work that looks like it will only give you continuous trouble...

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    Question Need a expert...

    Thanks for yor answer Cass!

    The thing is that if you have never seen somthing like this then I suppose you dont have the right answer for me.

    Now, what I'm looking for is that anybody have ever seen something like this and know how to install it?

    Thanks for answers,

    Paulinien

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    Does it have a seat??? I doubt you will find one if it doesn't...

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    There's no doubt you have an oddity and it would be interesting to know just how it was meant to be installed. But, realize that you have had three professional plumbers respond to the question and none of them have ever seen such a toilet much less have an answer to your question. There is no way under the sun that I would attempt to install this beast. It would have to be some homemade concoction that would almost certainly be unreliable and flood your home with sewage. I realize you have this thing and it is paid for, but the plain truth is, it's is a useless piece of junk.

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    It's missing a flange adapter.

    Measure the back of the tank, to the center of the rear drain.

    If it's more then 12", then you will need to move the plumbing in your home.

    Standard plumbing is the US is 12" from the back wall to the center of the drain.

    Like hj mentioned, there is no logical way to secure this to the floor.
    There is no flange adapter
    The outlet is too far forward for standard USA drains.

    This may work in other countries, you may need to find out how their homes are plumbed.
    It doesn't look like anything that we have seen.

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    What is the ID of the discharge...

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    If the toilets tank is against a wall the bottom has a curve that looks like there might be enough room to fit a lag bolt and washer and tighten it with a ratchet...maybe but I doubt the discharge will line up with any flange...

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    What makes you think ANYONE has experience with that toilet? There is NOTHING standard about it, so NONE of our suppliers would even look at it. In addition, the one open hole looks so small that I would be concerned with it stopping up every few days. Although that second opening might work as an overflow it it did. Someone did the Tom Sawyer thing on you. THey bought a "white elephant" but convinced you that it was something you really needed and unloaded it on you. He probably went out and celebrated that evening.

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    I had some time to kill.
    Apparently that is or looks like a Chinese made toilet, maybe made by a company named Kele, maybe model # KF03.
    It uses a P-trap (180mm) and an S-trap (300mm). I've got no idea how that would be installed but if it does use an S-trap than it can't be used in the US and possible in Canada either.
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    There's nothing American or Standard about that little fella.

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