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    The plumber came out with an auger to unclog the toilet on the main floor. It backed up again a few day later and overflowed. Then the renter called the next day and said the toilet upstairs backed up and overflowed. I called the plumber and he said it was too small of hole in the toilet and it would just happen. He said he would not guarantee the work any longer because of the small toilet holes.
    The next day, today, they called again and the 3rd toilet upstairs ran over as well. They claim they did not stuff the toilets at all. I lived there for 10 years and they never ran over, thought they did get clogged sometimes.
    The other drains (tubs, sinks, etc. ) are fine, so the plumber says it's not a clog to the main drain to the sewer. I have a call into the plumber again, so I want to be a little prepared when he calls.

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    If all the other drains are working fine, the problem is in the water closets themselves. And since it is happening in more than one water closet, someone in that household is clogging them period.

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    Thank you. That's sounds reasonable. But is there a reason that they are overflowing now as opposed to filling almost to the rim and stopping like they used to?

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    Details...Brands of toilets...people using them...dietary habits! Something *is* up just need to wrap a brain around it.
    1 toilet..ok.
    3?!

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    If they adjusted the water level causing the water closets to use more water per flush it will make it overflow.

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    The plumber said something about some possible air in the pipes?
    What do you think about that?

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    The plumber said something about some possible air in the pipes?
    What do you think about that?
    Air in pipes causing toilets to overflow?

    No.

    Some people are just good at plugging toilets.
    My cousin came over one day, and tried to show me how to flush a potato down my toilet.
    She plugged it.

    The she saw the new grid screen on my tub drain, pulled it out, bent it, and said,

    "What I hate about these, is that once they are bent, they don't stay in."

    Well, she was right about that. Once she bent my days old new tub drain screen, it wouldn't''t stay in the hole.
    Dooh!

    Not every toilet will stand up to a renter.
    Renters are not home owners.
    Renters tend to not be able to even change light bulbs when they go out.
    And when they flood a home, well, it's just not their problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by planechc View Post
    The plumber said something about some possible air in the pipes?
    What do you think about that?


    ROFL!


    That's a plumber that wants nothing more to do with that job and its renters.


    I had just this same scenario two weeks ago in a bad neighborhood and idiots for renters.

    There is just no hope for them and the situation, and someone mixed messages with someone saying that they needed a new toilet. ????


    They didn't need a new toilet; they needed to remove that upstairs tenant. Bad situation and I'm glad they hired someone else, per my request. I don't want to deal with that nonsense as those people will purposely create problems.


    I caught and ratted the tenant out for dumping a small waste can of cigarrette butts in the toilet. Then he plunges the toilet, blows the ring, then it leaks again less than 10 hours after I flushed that toilet 10 times in a row, right after setting that toilet and no leaks?

    A joke. That's what that situation was.
    Read what the end of this sentence means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by planechc View Post
    The plumber came out with an auger to unclog the toilet on the main floor. It backed up again a few day later and overflowed. Then the renter called the next day and said the toilet upstairs backed up and overflowed. I called the plumber and he said it was too small of hole in the toilet and it would just happen. He said he would not guarantee the work any longer because of the small toilet holes.
    The next day, today, they called again and the 3rd toilet upstairs ran over as well. They claim they did not stuff the toilets at all. I lived there for 10 years and they never ran over, thought they did get clogged sometimes.
    The other drains (tubs, sinks, etc. ) are fine, so the plumber says it's not a clog to the main drain to the sewer. I have a call into the plumber again, so I want to be a little prepared when he calls.
    If we use a heavy two-ply toilet paper, like Charmin etc, our toilet will back up. Maybe you could suggest to the renters to use only a Scotts single-ply. A two-ply especially with kids, will do it every time. Maybe, it is something as simple as that. Can't hurt to ask.

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    Cool another thought

    Are You sure the MAIN LINE is clear? Other fixtures drain OK ????? Hope the 2 li'll red head twins arn't playing flush what ever, in the toilets! It happens !
    Last edited by toolaholic; 09-24-2009 at 03:46 AM. Reason: sober again!

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    Thanks for all the replies. Since then, my Dad went down to the house to the toilet that has been augered twice and still backed up, and as he said "plunged the hell out of the toilet" and it sucked it right down. He did the one right above it upstairs that was clogged did the same thing and it went right down. The 3rd toilet upstairs after plunging was still slow.
    So augering the one downstairs twice did not get whatever was clogged. So I guess I need to get a different plumber to auger the one upstairs.
    I do agree about the toilet paper issue. Some are so thick now, it must be pretty hard to get down.

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    Some toilets just don't flush well.

    MaP is one rating system.
    The old 1.6 gallon Gerber builder grade toilet was rated at 150 grams.


    I like to see 500 grams.

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    This is getting ridiculous. The renters said again this morning that all 3 toilets are clogged up again. Come on.... Could it be anything else? I talked to the plumber again and he's adamant about nothing else be wrong except possible air in a pipe. I spoke to another plumber and said it had to be the renters.

    They really claim to not be stuffing the toilets at all. I could see 1 possible toilet having and issue, but not all 3. Any other ideas please? I am at a loss. Thanks.

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    Mail your renters a box of chocolates (laxatives).

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    You mentioned in the post when your dad was plunging them that the third floor one went down slow, I would consider maybe, something is wrong either with that toilet, or all the toilets, or a backed up drain somewhere; and maybe, you need to have another plumber come out. A registered master plumber.

    Have these tenants been renting from your dad a long enough period of time to gain a good track record and never, caused anyother problems? If so, I would think, the plumbing needs fixed, or toilets need replaced. Things do age and need replaced or cleaned out, or fixed.

    What kind of shape is the rest of the building in? And, does your dad keep on top of things? I can understand one tenant stuffing up a toilet, but all 3, and at the same time?


    Just my 2 cents worth.
    Last edited by Cookie; 09-25-2009 at 08:29 AM.

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