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    Default Boy dies in Septic tank

    This I am not joking about, just so you know.

    While having my car inspected this morning, the woman behind the counter told me about what happened to her neighbor kid a couple of days or so ago. Since I don't watch the news, I didn't hear it.

    Her neighbor's kid, age 4, was playing hide n seek, and the the top was off the septic tank and the boy climbed down in it. Along came the other neighbor and saw the top was off and put the top on and sat a brick on top of it.

    The boy was found dead in there, due to gases. He was found by a heat sensor plane above.

    Her son went to the school with the father of the deceased child. We stood there and cried.

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    This is very sad.

    Septic tanks should be banned and everyone put on public sewer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    This is very sad.

    Septic tanks should be banned and everyone put on public sewer.
    Not 100% doable. The infrastucture justn't isn't there for 100% public sewer.

    Sad story.
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    Refuse permits to build new houses that are not on a public sewer then, and ban wells while we are at it.

    It's time for subsidies.

    We shouldn't be dumping poo in this part of the back yard and drinking water from the other part of the back yard in this day and age.

    I want my water charges to subsidize the development of water and sewer infrastructure in remote parts of the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    I want my water charges to subsidize the development of water and sewer infrastructure in remote parts of the country.
    Come on down then, the latest utility expansion in Cape Coral costs the homeowners between $17-21K, which is hard to stomach for those barely making it right now. I'm sure they would appreciate the help.

    I made sure to buy a house with the utilities in and paid for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Refuse permits to build new houses that are not on a public sewer then, and ban wells while we are at it.

    It's time for subsidies.

    We shouldn't be dumping poo in this part of the back yard and drinking water from the other part of the back yard in this day and age.

    I want my water charges to subsidize the development of water and sewer infrastructure in remote parts of the country.
    OK...send me your $$$ and I will start the process.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Refuse permits to build new houses that are not on a public sewer then, and ban wells while we are at it.

    It's time for subsidies.

    We shouldn't be dumping poo in this part of the back yard and drinking water from the other part of the back yard in this day and age.

    I want my water charges to subsidize the development of water and sewer infrastructure in remote parts of the country.

    Sorry to hear about the child that died..

    But surely you are jokeing in your statement...???

    perhaps we could get he government to deal with
    this septic tank problem throughout the country....

    put it right up there with health care....for Obama to tackle
    just give him your vote and he will look into that septic
    tank situation fo r you...

    perhaps it could be added to the health care package

    It could cost trillioins of dollars, it might be unfeasabel to do, but its better than having poop in the back yard ...right??




    why not just simply make it code to put a lock on the top of the every sistern and septic tank
    so it cant be taken off by accident???

    (no thats too easy )






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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    Septic tanks should be banned and everyone put on public sewer.
    And what about the farm house on 100 acres of land out in the middle of nowhere?
    Log cabins out in the woods?
    The person who just spent $15-20k having their septic redone?
    The retired couple on a fixed income who's septic will last the rest of their life
    Taxes can't fix everything

    I guess everything that is hazardous or could possibly cause any sort of harm should be outlawed
    Time to go back to riding horses instead of cars
    Woops...horses could kill a person
    I guess we walk
    Then again there are some people that walking could kill them
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    And what about the farm house on 100 acres of land out in the middle of nowhere?
    Log cabins out in the woods?
    The person who just spent $15-20k having their septic redone?
    The retired couple on a fixed income who's septic will last the rest of their life
    Taxes can't fix everything
    I just think we need more permits and inspections and bigger Government too to deal with this.

    Existing properties could be grandfathered but all new builds should be mandated to be on public sewer and water.

    Obey the code, and don't put poop in your garden.

    Woods are for bears....not houses!

    And the last place I saw a well before coming to America was Africa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    I just think we need more permits and inspections and bigger Government too to deal with this.

    Existing properties could be grandfathered but all new builds should be mandated to be on public sewer and water.

    Obey the code, and don't put poop in your garden.

    Woods are for bears....not houses!

    And the last place I saw a well before coming to America was Africa.
    Bigger gov't?? Yikes! It crept up in size nicely under the last admin. and doesn't seem to be slowing down.


    Our wells are generally much better than Africa and I would venture to guess our codes with relations to wells and septic fields are much better as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    I just think we need more permits and inspections and bigger Government too to deal with this.

    Existing properties could be grandfathered but all new builds should be mandated to be on public sewer and water.

    Obey the code, and don't put poop in your garden.

    Woods are for bears....not houses!

    And the last place I saw a well before coming to America was Africa.
    And how many wild bears are there exactly on the British Isles?

    While I'm supportive of proper installations and permitting and think U.S. "conservatives" (what an oxymoron) have their heads completely up their collective rears when it comes to sustainability, your suggestions about sewers and wells are at best sadly misnformed.

    You might be from an overpopulated island, but many of us are not. Being self-sustaining does not require being hooked up to city mains for water or sewer. Rural Electric Cooperatives were a great thing (thanks, FDR), but running water and sewer mains even a few miles out of town where I grew up is completely infeasible based on population density (about one dwelling for every 80-160 acres when I was a boy) and the elevation changes. Septic and wells work just fine, thanks. The cattle seemed to do just fine grazing over the covered field lines, and the milk, cream, butter and beef from them was mighty fine. My water was clean and safe and the fish (bass, crappie, catfish, bluegill, red ear sunfish, crayfish, etc.), deer, turkey, rabbits, quail, mountain lions, bobcats, coyotes, skunks, box turtles, various lizards, owls, herons, bull frogs, toads, alligator snapping turtles, raccoons, various snakes, squirrels, foxes, etc. living on our land seemed to be making out well. (We did eradicate the muskrats though as they were wrecking the dams of our ponds.) Bears were very rare and I never saw one there although my grandfather swore he came across one while I was very young. I've seen all the rest there...even though it was another two decades before the conservation office acknowledged the mountain lions were back. There is nothing quite like the sound of them at night either...the cattle go nuts.

    What amazes me in town is the number of morons wasting several times more per year on watering their lawn alone than I use for a whole year for a family of four. Of course they only pay for the potable water used, because it isn't in their sewer charge (based on the average of three winter months.) Nevermind that because of over irrigation, lawns of residences may soon be considered zero permeability with respect to run off/retention/drainage.

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