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    I would appreciate any comments on this question.

    I am a new softened water user. I noticed this morning that the water has a noticeable salty taste. The controller indicates that the unit went into regeneration last night.

    Should the water have a noticeable salty taste after regen? I suspect the only true way to determine if the water does contain salt is to have it tested for sodium levels before and after regeneration.

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    Four things

    Crap in the brine line flow control

    Crap in the brine valve

    Timer ain't cycling

    The injector is plugged up

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    Thanks for the info. I'll try to offer those suggestions to my softener company. They are coming by to take a look.

    All they could suggest is shutting off the ice maker every night. They suspect the ice maker is calling for water when the unit is in regeneration. Does that sound possible.

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    Yes, but pretty rare

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    Ok, but for some reason I seem to remember them saying when the unit is in regeneration, if there is a water demand from the house, the controller only provides un-conditioned water.

    As an example, if a toilet was flushed when in regeneration, the water going to the toilet would be straight well water, not softened. Not that it would matter.

    What type of water is the softener supposed to provide when the unit is regenerating?

    Thanks.

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    They are correct. So put the ice maker on a timer.

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    nhmaster,

    Put the ice maker on a timer? Sorry, but you have lost me with that statement.

    Maybe I was unclear with my initial comment. The ice maker/water dispenser is part of a KitchenAid refrigerator. How exactly am I supposed to time when ice maker calls for water?

    Andy,

    Since this is a single tank system with Autotrol valve/controller for the softener, there should be no noticeable saltiness to the water after regeneration. Unless there is a problem with the AutoTrol valve/controller, correct?

    Earnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy CWS View Post
    All simplex (single tank) systems will produce untreated water during its regeneration with a normal by-pass. Some commercial units will shut off service water, prohibiting any water through that particular unit during regeneration. Duplex (and triplex, etc.) systems will provide treated water even during regeneration, so they can regenerate anytime day or night.
    A no hard water bypass is internal to the control valve, not external as with a regular softener by pass valve. A NHWBP type control valve is very rarely to never used in residential softeners.

    There is a regular two tank (as some call them simplex or single tank) softener control valve that regenerates at any time of day or night and it is aslo delayed regeneration to a set time of day; usually 2 AM. I've been selling it for years.

    I can also use it for twin tank applications with water through both tanks or not, with immediate and/or staggered delayed regeneration to a set time of day, and it has a softened water purge rinse to get rid of the stagnant water in the tank in Standby before it goes in Service. Currently there is no twin tank softener on the market that has its features and programming options; although the Fleck TwinFlo 100e has the purge rinse of the Standby tank.
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    Ground water quality can change, too. Especially, if it is a shallow well, surface conditions can affect it. Road salt, contaminents, etc.

    El Paso, TX gets its water (mostly) from really deep wells. There's salt water underneath the fresh, and they're approaching the salty layer since they've had uncontrolled expansion and poor water conservation. Kind of tough in the desert, but it happens more often than it should.

    Just got back from an Alaska vacation. Found out that the fresh water melt from the glaciers is often so strong that you can drink the fresh water on top of the salt in many places before it mixes. Lots of animals drink from the bay, which would normally kill them with the salt.
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