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    What is the best way to measure the .7 CF of resin needed in each tank?
    I know I can weigh it, divide by 10 and then multiply by 7, but is there an easier way? Thanks

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    I would save time and a step by weighing the 1 cuft and multiplying that by .7.

    The only lubricant required on most o-rings used on control valves etc. today is water.
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    It would be 21 quarts or 5.25 gallons.

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    worked out pretty good.. I cut the bottom off a clean, one gallon oil container that had a big neck and used a scoop. Cleaned the tanks as recommended by Andy also. Thanks for the replies. Chuck

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    Anyone buys resin from me I include a proper new funnel.
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    Silicone o-rings only need water as a lubricant.
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    Using that search criteria only brings up your post here, nothing else...

    Try this, "silicone o-rings" + lubricant and see where you aren't supposed to use silicone lube on silicone o-rings etc.. Especially with static joints.

    I'll make it easy for you;

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...ricant&spell=1
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    Gary, Mute or Moot point. My Kinetico O-Rings are not silicone. They are Styrene-Butadiene Rubber (SBR) O-Rings and I have always used silicone grease with no problems. Thanks.

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    The only lubricant required on most o-rings used on control valves etc. today is water.
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    If you want to tell people with silicone o-rings to lube them, and to use silicone to do it, go for it. It is not necessary, water works very well.
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    Andy and Gary: I want to see if I understand the issue about lubricating o rings on softeners.

    Gary said silicone lubricant isn't required with a silicone o ring. Andy said it is ok to use silicone lubricant on o rings. I don't see a direct conflict between those statements--rather a different emphasis.

    I know that Gary is a proponent of Clack valves so I looked at the documentation for Clack WS=1 valves to see what is said about o ring lubricants. I found the following statement in more than one place: "Do not use Vaseline, oils, or other unacceptable lubricants on o-rings. A silicone lubricant may be used on black o-rings." I found no reference to using water as a lubricant in the Clack manuals I reviewed.

    So my take is that it is ok to use silicone lubricant but sometimes it may not be required. I guess the practical question that remains for me is how do I know if the o ring is a silicone o ring that doesn't require silicone lub?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slusser View Post
    The only lubricant required on most o-rings used on control valves etc. today is water.

    Gary, a more approprate statement from you would have been something like:

    "Some people use silicone on their orings, which is fine, but I have always used water and it works for me."

    and again my o-rings aren't made of silicone!

    Until they rewrite my Kinetico manual I will continue to use silicone as it recommends. It makes assembly much easier. Thanks Chuck

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    Tip: For those of you wishing to use silicone lube/sealer for any purpose, Lowes sells a reasonably sized, reasonably priced ($4+/-) container. Say, for the o-rings on a kitchen faucet spout.

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    Silicone o-rings do not need lubrication but if you want to lubricate, water works very well.

    Clack also says to not lubricate the seals. They are silicone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy CWS View Post
    http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/newater/WS1INS.pdf

    I did find these fairly clear and specific instructions on Clack valves. I guess I was going on this.
    Andy, The link you provide is to a document prepared by the online seller of softeners--It is not, as best I can tell, a Clack document.

    The quote I provided in my post above was taken from a document on the Clack website--specifically this document at page 35:

    http://www.clackcorp.com/valve/Manua...ice_Manual.pdf

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