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    Default Toto Seat Designs

    The Toto Promedade comes with a soft-close seat that has two features I do not like. First, the lid has a curve, sort of a crown, as compared to being flat, so you cannot sit on it or put things down on it, without them sliding off. Second, the seat itself is curve inwards and down toward the center of the bowl. I am used to an old fashoined seat that is flat on top. I do like the soft close feature.

    Are there other seats with soft-close that Toto makes that will fit the Promenade toilet?

    Thanks.

    Last edited by Terry; 06-26-2012 at 03:01 PM.

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    Toilet seats essentially come in two shapes - round and elongated. Toto does make others that would fit - they make one out of painted wood, and heavier units designed for commercial use. I do not know if the ultimate shape is the same.

    Any brand would fit, but the curve or color may not match as well. What is standard is the location of the mounting bolts. You could probably use the anchor bolts from Toto to install a different brand.

    Personally, I don't use my toilet seat as a storage platform, so the crown doesn't bother me. After a week or so, the curve of the seat isn't a problem, either. It does help to center you and help minimize skid marks that you wouldn't get with a flat seat.

    How long have you had it? Have you actually used it yet? I'd give it a trial of at least a few weeks, then decide if you needed to replace it.
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    The Church 585 is nice and flat. Here it is on a Toto Drake.
    If you like sitting on a plank, then this should please you.

    If you have a cute round butt, the the seat below may feel better to sit on.

    Last edited by Terry; 08-16-2009 at 01:36 PM.

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    I don't think the phrase "cute round" has applied to my butt since I was about 6 months old, but I find the SS114 to be as comfortable as padded seats used to be.



    This is the new SS114 seat by TOTO. It's not dished as much.
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    If you want a Toto and your toilet is elongated you can use the SS214, i have the Soiree and it is a flatter seat.

    As mentioned any make will fit.

    Last edited by Terry; 05-08-2012 at 12:38 PM.

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    Thanks for all the replies. The Church 585 looks more like what I have been used to. I am beginning to get used to the SS114, but you cannot lean back like you can with a flat lid. Anyhow, will give it some more time as jadnashua suggests.

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    Yes,
    I like the toilet seats that let you lean back.
    There is no better time to relax then when you are on the potty.
    Just stretch your legs out and lean back and enjoy your time pooping.

    Make sure you have good reading material, and a nice stiff drink.
    Oh yeah baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe the Plumber View Post
    Yes,
    I like the toilet seats that let you lean back.
    There is no better time to relax then when you are on the potty.
    Just stretch your legs out and lean back and enjoy your time pooping.

    Make sure you have good reading material, and a nice stiff drink.
    Oh yeah baby.
    My doctor gave me strict instructions that if you can't do your job in 3-minutes or less, get off the pot! Sitting there, straining, is not good for you...you need more roughage!
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    Default Female problem with flat Bemis seat

    Well, as you might guess, I'm the handy lady of the family. I've gotten a few chuckles reading some of the posts on this forum. Never knew toilets could be so much fun.

    We've had a Toto Dartmouth in the master bath for almost 5 years, elongated, and I also thought I wouldn't like the "funnel" shape of the soft-close seat, so I got a regular, flat "plank" seat by Bemis. The problem I discovered, which you men out there wouldn't know about unless your wife has the same issue, is that liquids often splash up under the seat, and I've spent the last 5 years lifting the bottom of the seat to wipe it off with tissue paper for my husband's benefit. I've never had any other toilet do this to me. I figure it's something about the curve of the bowl and the lower water height (all our other toilets are from 1970). (Any ladies out there with this problem? We need to tell Toto!)

    I am now thinking of getting a Toto soft-close seat, hoping that they have tested these in real life (by women too?) and that it won't splash up on the more curvy shape.

    Does anyone have any helpful information before I spend $$ on a traditional soft-close seat in the Sedona Beige color?

    (By the way, our city is giving $100 rebates per toilet for a 1.28 (even to replace a 1.6), so I'm planning to get 2 Drake II's and 1 Eco-Dartmouth or maybe -Clayton. I found out about the rebate in Home Depot...never heard about it in my water bill or paper or radio and it's been going on since April. Everybody needs to check out their municipality! Toilet prices may be going up from demand.)

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    It's funny i mentioned this to the ladies at my work that the women's toilet seat underneath had more urine on it then the men's and they looked at me like i was nuts (i knew it).

    We have the Washlet bidet seats in both our bathrooms so i know they have the same problem as yours, sorry don't have the regular soft close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut9199 View Post
    It's funny i mentioned this to the ladies at my work that the women's toilet seat underneath had more urine on it then the men's and they looked at me like i was nuts (i knew it).
    Back when I was working fast food and drive-in type jobs during high school the worst task was always cleaning the ladies room. If seems the fairer sex could defile a washroom in ways that would make a drunken Marine blush. (And I grew up cleaning calf and pig pens.)

    As far as seats go, my wife doesn't care for the standard Toto Ultramax softclose seat and neither do I. I'm not fond of wedging my ass into a funnel. We are neither heavy nor thin (I used to be distance runner/boxer lean...not anymore.)

    I would like to see one of the SS204's in person. How the heck do your properly "try out" a toilet seat in a showroom anyway?

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    Unhappy splish splash, booooo

    I know this is an old thread, but for anyone who can benefit from this -- I have the soft close seat and i do have the same "splash up" problem. I'm very unhappy with having to lift and wipe under the seat every time I use the toilet. :-( Other than that it's a great toilet. Would I buy it again? Not with this problem, no.

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    Default Splash problem

    Hi Marsh, thanks for your input! It's been 6 1/2 years now and I'm still wiping the seat! I also would not buy this toilet again and it makes me afraid to buy any Toto 1.6 gallon. I wonder about the 1.28 gallons?

    By the way, I put an American Standard Cadet 3 in our office, and it's perfect. No splash-up, always flushes. (It's the elongated, seat-height one.) The only issue for my home is the style...I'd rather have something more traditional.

    Terry, you may have a contact at Toto whom you could contact about this problem. Thanks!
    Last edited by Terry; 06-24-2011 at 10:20 AM.

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    If you do not like the "Crown" of the modern seats you would have hated the old Crane Criterion "saddle seat", with its concave seat and cover.

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    Default decided on toilet but worried about seat

    I was thrilled to discover that so many people love these Toto toilets, especially the Drake CST744SG ... gets very high marks overall ... but then I was really distressed to read all the negative comments about the splash-up under the seat. So I have a few questions:

    1. Is this splash-up problem pretty ubiquitous across all Toto toilets (including the Drake model mentioned above)? And is there any bowl/seat combo that handles the problem better than the others?

    2. Referring back to someone else's question, where would a person go to try out different seats? Nothing could be farther from a real test case than just ordering online ...

    3. Regarding the soft close ... does this refer to the seat or the lid? I watched a video of the lid (I think) closing and it seemed to take forever ... I think I would hate this feature ...

    4. and possibly to push the envelope of grossness, someone said this: "(The curve of the seat) does help to center you and help minimize skid marks that you wouldn't get with a flat seat." Why would you get more or less skid marks with a flat seat? Does it have something to do with cheek spread? Sorry for being indelicate ... funny topic ...

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