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    It is even nicer when I do not have to pay shipping and can go a couple of miles away and pick out whichever ones I want and take them home with me. The guy in the picture may be there to lay pipe, but I wonder what kind uses a Crescent wrench and a 1/2" rachet drive?

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    Ian,
    Another note, if you have a helper you really don't need all the drywall support tools. My brother and I did quite a bit in his house and I think those things would've been in the way.
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    The best way to learn drywall is to sit back and watch a pro do it.

    When I was building houses, one of the contractors gave me some lessons in it.
    It's all about bending the blades to put that fine taper where it meets the board.
    I just looked at some mudding work in a friend's home, it was looking pretty hack.

    The first coat goes on with the shorter blade,
    and then the next day you go with a longer blade.
    Most do two base coats, and then a topping coat with a long blade.
    There should be almost no sanding needed if you are bending the blades enough.

    For one day jobs, I hire a guy that uses 30 minute mud.
    He can hang, tape and texture in one day.
    But if you use the 30,45 and 90 minute mud, you better be good.
    It doesn't really sand.

    I've done a bit of taping over the years, but when I want it quick and really good, I hire out,
    But Ian, you should have fun with it.
    I wish I could find a good video for you on using the blades.
    Most home shows don't let you see the real pro, just the stand up comedian that pretends he knows.

    Don't buy the round tubs,
    Get the boxes of mud.
    One for the base coat
    and one topping mix.
    Throw away what you don't use.
    Just buy the big box, you will be glad you did, it's better stuff.
    For a first timer, don't use any quick mud.

    Video of a dork pretending he can mud drywall.
    This guy doesn't have a friggin clue.

    Notice that his blade is too short, it should be a six or an eight for the first coat.
    The ends of the blade should be pressed against the wall forcing a bend in the middle of the blade.
    That way is will smooth itself.
    Otherwise, you will be sanding the crap out of it like the dork in the video.

    The last coat I use a 12" or longer blade.

    For the first corner coats, you can use one made for that.
    That way the blade will press tight against the wall on either side.

    This guy is a little less dorky, but still not with the program.
    The guys I work with would laugh.

    Check out these video's Ian, much better
    http://www.drywallschool.com/videos.htm

    Or watch these video's first, and then go back to the top, and laugh your behind off.
    The last video's are soooo much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gills View Post
    We all need a hobby Hj. What's yours?

    I bought four access panels today. This seems a nice place to get them. http://www.accessdoorsdirect.com/

    That is the one thing I love most about America. There is no other country on this earth when you can say "Right I want an access panel for my drywall", go online and order it. You can buy anything here so easily.
    Actually, I'd rather build an access panel myself than buy one! If I can build one better and cheaper than I can buy it...why not?

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    You may be able to build it cheaper, but I doubt if it will be BETTER.

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    I know enough about drywalling to know its an art form & let a pro do it
    I will mud closets & kitchen walls where cabinets or tile will cover the walls
    Plus the cathedral ceiling as I will be putting up some sort of wood over the drywall

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    Thanks for all the tips guys. I just got 34 sheets home and unloaded myself. Nobody told me this stuff was heavy.

    Phew.

    I'll rest today and carry on with the remodel tomorrow.

    I calculated the combined weight as over 2000 pounds.

    I rented a Chevy truck with a 1500 pound load capacity and it did the job just fine. Very impressive.
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    You're still alive
    So it must have been 8' sheets
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    I came very close to death.

    I needed to go to bed afterwards. I have just woken up. My arms and legs have not ached like this in years.

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    Is it not the "good" hurt type?
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    My legs feel like they are on fire and my arms feel longer than they used to.


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    Did you use a panel carrier?
    If any distance I carry one panel at a time

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    Ian,
    Think of the pros hanging 4x12 sheets of 5/8" on the ceilings.
    That stuff is heavy.

    That's why, when someone mentions building a home, I tell them,
    When it gets time for drywall, take a vacation and let them do it.

    It's hard work.

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    Ian, when we bought our first house when I was much younger, lol, he was called away for months for a job, and I was left with a nearly, gutted out kitchen. I taught myself how to drywall. One thing I learned was to make sure those sheets are plumb, nice and straight. Lay them over night flat in a place not humid. The walls were easy because I just measured everything first, cutting out the outlets, switches, etc, but the ceiling my dad came over and did for me.

    Then, 13 years later, I bought the money pit. Not too long ago, I was left to do a ceiling. Alone. My girlfriend and I had taken a table, used that as a ladder. I measured exact where I was going to screw it into the ceiling. It was so much easier to drill the screw holes while laying down in front of me. I had the girlfriend hold the sheet into place and with the prescrewed holes, oh, Ian, I also, prescrewed into the stud... so, I just matched the holes and screwed the screw in. It didn't seem to take longer to do either because I wasn't hurting my arms trying to screw upwards into something. I was just screwing the screw in. Lots of easier for me, just took alittle time to premeasure where the holes were going on the sheet.

    It worked for me.

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    I almost forgot, when all finished we got cleaned up, went to the Olive Garden and drank an huge amount of wine, toasting drinks to my ceiling, all 10 sheets.
    This is the most important part.

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