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Thread: Ikea Braviken Sink - Need Specailized Plumbing?

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    I looked at sinks and vanities all over and didn't think spending $1000.00 more provided me with much better quality than what IKEA offers. However, I do have to agree that the plumbing included with the Godmorgon sink is pretty sketchy.

    Having little plumbing experience, it took me a while, but I was able to retrofit a drain system that I have a lot more confidence in.

    Here is a link to the finished product:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/parkerman/4302237395/

    If you browse around my linked flickr page you can find more detailed views of the connections.

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    i'm sure more experts will respond. But from what I've learned here, thats not a legit drain setup at all. you can't use a vent-T on its side like that, you are supposed to use a wye after the 2 individual traps. there was some reason by code that you can't install a bath sink the same was as a kitchen sink.

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    I saw these sinks at IKEA and really liked them too. But I decided against it mainly because of the depth of the sink -- just seemed too shallow. Looks great though.

    IKEA stuff is pretty disposable. If I were to buy one of these, I'd order a couple drain assemblies at the same time and stash them away for the inevitable failures, and then I'd just plan on replacing the whole thing in 5 years or so. I'm not a big believer in buying heirloom-quality products for the bathroom -- like kitchens, bathrooms need updating every 10-20 years.

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    Default Overall works fine for me

    We installed this sink with the Ikea plumbing, hooked it all up ourselves up to the point of attaching to the drain pipe in the wall. For that we used our plumber to make that connection, it was cheap, it was easy and it has been working fine. This plumbing can be a challenge for the do it yourselfers because Ikea's piping gets you down to the drain pipe but you have to figure out on your own how to make the connection to the house drain. Ideally I'd rather have a heavier grade PVC than what Ikea gives you, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice to get a full two drawer unit under the sink.

    The only thing I'd caution you on is the shallow sink does splash a lot if you have good water pressure.

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    Default special fittings to install IKEA bathroom sinks?

    IKEA is still (in 2010) selling sinks with the Rinnen ABS piping and trap. You don't have to use the Rinnen kit, though without it more of the space in the vanity will be taken up by the P-trap. I have a single Lillangen sink that had no problems accommodating the Delta Dryden faucet and popup waste that I ordered before selecting the sink. Connecting the overflow of the Braviken sink might be a problem, though, unless you can fit a dishwasher drain hose nipple somewhere in the waste line (I have no idea if code will allow this anywhere other than just above the P-trap). The multiple projections you see on the Rinnen kit are for a washer drain hose hookup (Europeans cope with lack of space by installing washers in kitchens or even bathrooms, legal in most countries is if the machine is more than a certain distance from the tub or shower). One thing you should not need to worry about is European plumbing fittings being "metric". The vast majority are not (3/8", 1/2" and 3/4" fittings are common), and the Rinnen piping is 1 1/4".Name:  brm880_2509.JPG
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    The OP asked about a different strainer, a closer match to his faucet.
    ("... use a different strainer to match the finish")
    He could have that strainer replated.

    He seemed to confuse the metal strainer with the word "drain"
    ".... find a drain that will fit with the ikea pvc..." and
    "... interested in replacing the drain outright..." and
    "... looking for a replacement drain with a similar configuration to the Ikea setup, or a way to build something that will work..."

    I think the first response he got took the thread into sterile territory.
    Tons of other responses scorned the setup.
    They didn't respond to his need for a metal strainer.
    BUT the OP was dumb to go and explain the whole setup if he only wanted a strainer.
    Quote Originally Posted by snapplez View Post
    .... a huge fullsize drawer. The kit comes with... pvc plumbing ... the drain does not ... drop into the vanity. This feat is accomplished with a specialized drain strainer and tight 90 degree elbow).
    He said "This feat is accomplished with a specialized drain strainer "
    Actually no, the feat is accomplished with a tight elbow.
    The strainer sits on top.

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    An elbow under the sink drain takes the sink's waste water to the back wall, instead of the normal way of letting waste water drop in a straight line down the the P trap positioned in space directly underneath the sink drain. So, the tight elbow replaces what people normally see, a straight pipe known as the sink drain tailpiece.

    Then, when that pipe reaches the wall (and if memory serves), the Ikea setup has a few connections there, for the overflow to connect in, and maybe another inlet. This is a good thing. It allows "venting" so that drain water, when moving forward, displaces air of equal volume. This allows the drain to flow well. Then, the drain pipe goes downhill, to the P trap.

    The venting referred to here is not the venting that comes after the P trap.
    Good to know whenever you talk to others, or write about plumbing.
    After the P trap it is DWV venting, which has sewer gases and is dangerous.
    Prior to the P trap, "venting" is regular air being displaced to help the drain water get moving.
    (Some sinks without overflows drain slowly. This is why.)


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    The first elbow under a drain can be a tight turn. A closet elbow and a tub shoe, under toilets and bathtubs, are tight turns. This is code.

    In the case here, it allows you to put the P trap somewhere OTHER than "directly underneath the sink drain" straight down. ADA wheelchair access plumbing is like this. If you are in a wheelchair, you wheel up to the counter and do not have to maneuver around a P trap banging into your knees. The P trap is somewhere else. The same principle allows you to have a drawer under your drain in this case.


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    If anyone objects, read this nest statement: people have it drummed into them that a P trap must be positioned in space directly underneath the sink drain. This is false information. I've discussed this subject in this forum before. This is one of the few minor mistakes that Master Plumbers make sometimes.


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    Hope this helps explain Godmorgon and Braviken plumbing.


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    Take it back and buy one of those bathroom lights with a single three prong receptacle in them!

    Long live IKEA!

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    The Ikea lav top installed.














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