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    Having been to Home Depot last night, there are a plethora of wax rings:

    - your basic standard wax ring.
    - the oversized wax ring.
    - the reinforced wax ring with some plastic actually in the wax.
    - the waxless wax ring.
    - the extended wax ring.


    The guy at home depot said to get the oversized reinforced wax ring because it is designed for flanges that are installed properly AND for flanges that are a bit low (1/4" to 1").

    Any thoughts?

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    On a properly installed closet flange I use a regular wax ring.

    Infact I rarely use anything else, seeing as in the case of an improperly installed closet flange I usually make corrective measures to the flange...


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    Take all that wax and toss it and get your hands on a 4 lB tub of Sta put plumbers putty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradahkimo View Post
    Having been to Home Depot last night, there are a plethora of wax rings:

    - your basic standard wax ring.
    - the oversized wax ring.
    - the reinforced wax ring with some plastic actually in the wax.
    - the waxless wax ring.
    - the extended wax ring.


    The guy at home depot said to get the oversized reinforced wax ring because it is designed for flanges that are installed properly AND for flanges that are a bit low (1/4" to 1").

    Any thoughts?
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    Avoid those with the funnel...they tend to cause more problems than they create. If you don't get things perfectly aligned, you can end up with that funnel collapsing and giving you all sorts of grief. If the flange is low, best to raise it or use flange extenders, but a lot of people have success with a thicker ring.
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    I can't seem to find the thicker rings without the horn lately.
    I just post cuz I like to see my avatar.

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    After you use a utility knife on the funnel, NONE of them have a funnel.

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    I've been using the one with the funnel for years thinking that it's the better one. What kind of problems does the funnel cause? So after adding a ceramic tile floor just a regular or thick wax ring without the funnel is the best bet?

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    The funnel causes a restriction,use the thick wax or as Mr Ratz said sta put
    putty,used them both and they work fine,but with sta put you have form
    the ring your self.

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    I think you must understand that when we say the wax rings with funnels cause problems, it should not be take that every use will create a problem. The real point is, you don't get any benefit from one, but you do get a potential for a problem. We sometimes tend to overstate things.

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    If you read the box, the ones with the fiber "reinforcment" usually state that they are for use with "wall hung" toilets.

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    I don't see the thick rings without the funnel in local stores by me, can it be pulled or cut out? Maybe a supply house would carry them.

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    And I quote,
    Quote Originally Posted by hj View Post
    After you use a utility knife on the funnel, NONE of them have a funnel.
    I just post cuz I like to see my avatar.

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    Depending on the diameter of the drain pipe and how well you center the toilet on the flange, you could cause the funnel to compress or distort and actually close up. If you install the toilet properly with the wax, and your flange is where it should be, it will last until you decide to replace the toilet.
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