Bet the food is better.
I am quoting this:
The President recently told a remarkable story about his grandmother. In the last months of her life---she was dying of cancer---she broke her hip and received a hip replacement from Medicare. " I don't know how much that hip replacement cost " Obama told the New York Times, and he questioned whether giving people a hip replacement when they are terminally ill is a sustainable model. " This is the most sensitive health care issue imagineable. But the question of whether the government can decide which health treatments are appropriate is central to whether an central health care system can be devised. Part of the answer is implicated in the electronic medical records sytem that Obama has proposed.
It goes on talking about us baby boomers.
Yes....This is the question that all the " The government should supply us with it free" crowd does not realize...once the government supplys health care to every one they will be the one that decide if spending the $$$ is worth it...they will decide if you are to old to spend the $$$ or if the cost of treatment is to high...I for one don't want to hear" Hi...my name is John, Im from the government and today I will be deciding if you live or die...
If you think it is bad now with the HMOs people should just look at other countrys...they are 100s of X worse than the HMOs but very few understand...the way it is now is not perfect...there will never be a perfect one ...but it is the best system in the world....
I'm not sure if any of you saw this on the news but there were a few people in France that were just told that they could not receive possible life saving treatment for cancer because it was to expensive...
Guess where the first government cut backs would be during a recession or depression...They would start with the elderly...and they would set what age they conside elderly to be...
Last edited by Cass; 05-10-2009 at 04:43 AM.
Well, the article of the May 18th issue goes on saying,
about the baby boomer's:
" Since most of the baby boomer's about to enter the Medicaid system we have been living with managed care for the past 20 years, a gradual transition may not be impossible." The real battle, and the fate of this liberal dream, will be fought over what gets covered and who decides.
Last edited by Cookie; 05-10-2009 at 06:17 AM.
Usually the same people that think it is OK to do whatever with our flag are the same ones that voted for OBAMA! and other democrats; many because of the free health care they were promised without knowing how it would be accomplished. As everything else they were promised. Yet those people will probably be the first to complain after the health care industry is decimated and all health care is fully controlled by the government and treatment is refused to them or their family simply because they are too old or it is too costly. Which is the plan from what I have read and what OBAMA! has said.
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Trust me, you would like free health care.
I have some of the best private medical insurance in this country (provided by my employer) and I am still stunned at how much I still have to pay out-of-pocket or the hoops I have to jump through to get the more complex treatment, versus how I am treated in Europe.
Waiting a couple of weeks (in extreme cases, often there is no wait) but getting everything for free is much better under socialised medicine.
And socialised medicine does not mean the end of private. They can live together side-by-side. You just will have to pay for both. But America spends so much on defence and going into space (for God's sake) that you won't notice any difference anyway.
Healthy people pay taxes, sick people don't. Remember that.
Last edited by Ian Gills; 05-11-2009 at 12:16 PM.
Have you ever experienced an expensive, major health problem a few times over? Just a question, what would happen if you were on chemo for 5 years, at 120,000 thousand dollars a drug? Not to fail to mention, your scans are 20,000 a year and then, a whole lot of incidentals. And, you are mid 50's, and you spent the past 11 years fighting it, an incurable disease, but being controlled and managed, with no guarantees. When would they say no to you? And, could you have a bone marrow transplant and also, an autologous stem cell transplant? Are you familiar with the cost of these?
There are other factors too, you would need to present to them, or add on; other medical problems equally, as tough and expensive. (We are not talking a hip replacement either.)
Last edited by Cookie; 05-11-2009 at 03:09 PM.
In the UK, no problem. All paid for by the State. My father-in-law has a US$30,000 a month condition. No problems.
Here, the insurance company would have kicked him to the kerb years ago.
The problem in the US is that health "insurance" is not really insurance. Insurance is supposed to share the risk among everybody...so we all pay a little, just in case, and the guy that gets sick gets the treatment. But in America, if they think you are too risky they kick you out, just leaving all the healthy guys in, which defeats the whole purpose!
ALL SHOULD PAY, ALL SHOULD BENEFIT. PERIOD. GET THE GOVERNMENT IN.
Last edited by Ian Gills; 05-11-2009 at 12:29 PM.
I am not on the curb, and my medical bills are more than you can imagine. Ian, my pills were 500 a piece, lol.
I am glad you like your health insurance over in the UK, and I like mine here. Infact, I like it alot, because I know, no matter how old I get, no matter if they decide I am not worth it anymore, the deciding factor will be mine... I cast the vote Ian. That is the difference.