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    Default Chain E-mail About the American Flag

    Have any of you all gotten the chain e-mail about the American Flag Upside down and Flying below a Mexican flag out in California? I just did, and I would of thought it to be some sort of fake e-mail. So I checked it out on Snope, Digg, and Truth or Fiction. Sadly it was true back in March 27, 2006.

    If you want to read the truth part and the e-mail here is the link at truth or fiction (no annoying pop-ups like Snope) http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...bello-flag.htm

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    It's only a flag. The Flag Code serves as a guide to be followed on a purely voluntary basis to insure proper respect for the flag. The Supreme Court has ruled that politically motivated violations of the Flag Code are protected by the First Amendment.

    The Flag Code has no provision for enforcement. No fines, no penalties. There is nothing law enforcement can do when the Flag Code is broken.


    Your rules for how to use the American flag are actually pretty relaxed compared to most other countries.



    For example, most would not let you hang it from a car unless you are someone quite special. But here anyone can, as long as the staff is fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

    South Africa has some of the tightest rules I have seen.
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    Oh, Ian if you were to have spoken to my dad when he was alive he would had set you straight real fast. He fought for that flag, that flag is a symbol of our country, it is disrespectful for those who fought, and either lived or died for our country.


    No, Ian it is not just a flag. That was my dad. I would personally had climbed up that pole and made it right.

    That flag does not touch the ground or does not get tattered or torn, and hangs always proudly in the air.
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    Quite Frankly What I would like to see is when there is a similar demonstration that the marchers are all detained until citizenship can be verified and that all who are not US citizens are deported immediately...

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    Not that anyone has mentioned it, but the graphic in my post is actually a demonstration on how the American flag should be folded.

    If you really love the American flag that much (which you all clearly do) then you must also consider other flag violations which you probably overlook more than you might think.


    Baltimore, MD. Flags overprinted with the new President's image and name are distributed to celebrate his inauguration. Section 8g of the Flag Code reads, "The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature."


    September 11, 2006, President Bush and first lady Laura Bush stand on a carpet of the American flag at Ground Zero in Manhattan, the site of the September 11, 2001 attack. Section 8b of the Flag Code reads, " The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground..."


    Super Bowl 2004, half-time show featured the wearing of an American flag by performer Kid Rock. He later removed the flag poncho and hurled it over his head. Section 8d. reads, "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."


    In July 2003 President Bush autographed a small flag. This picture was circulated across the Internet noting its violation of the Flag Code: "The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature."
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    As, much as you might not understand this, those examples you cited were not deliberate actions of disrespect, hanging it upside as in the other mentioned, is. Does this make any sense to you? I cannot explain it, in any other way, Ian. It is the intent.

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    Walking on the flag is not disrespect?????

    The flag has been burned & desecrated in this country
    Its all part of the freedom
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    I'm sorry but I would never walk on the American flag
    I do have a patch on my hat that has the American flag
    As well as one on one coat

    So he didn't intend to walk on the flag??

    He didn't intend to sign the flag?
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    Robin hood without a weapon?

    Shirley you jest
    He created the 1st weapon of mass desctruction

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    It's a quarterstaff. The quarterstaff may be made from many kinds of wood, commonly ash, oak, hazel, or hawthorn. It may have metal spikes or caps at one or both ends. The length of the staff varies, typically ranging from 6 to 9 feet. The weapon seems to have become shorter and lighter later in its history, though 3-meter staves (made of bamboo or ash) wood were still sometimes employed in Victorian England.

    The quarterstaff is effectively a long two-handed club, although its weight distribution is generally even throughout its entire length (some forms did have weighted tips, however). It was used both to deliver crushing blows, and to thrust like a spear. The art of using the staff was closely related to that of other polearms, and it was often employed as a training weapon for the latter. Moves include many different forms of blocks, thrusts, strikes, and sweeps.

    The staff, being a very simple weapon to manufacture, has a long history of use, and a wide cultural dispersion. The staff is a traditional weapon of many Asian martial arts. The quarterstaff proper was historically a common weapon in England, where it is featured in the Robin Hood legend as the favorite weapon of Little John. There are also many tools that can easily be used as or quickly converted to a staff. Like copper pipe.

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    When a French envoy asked why the convention was in France but was being conducted in English, he was told that if it were not for America and England, the meeting would be in German.

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    The American Flag upside down means America in Distress...I am not sure if when it was place that way they knew it or not...they may have done it to disrespect it...but regardless it should have been on the National News but the politically correct left wouldn't want to cause any problems with their voters...

    when I gaze at the general view of our president it reminds me of how much of Germany acted toward Hitler before and during the War...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post
    The American Flag upside down means America in Distress...I am not sure if when it was place that way they knew it or not...they may have done it to disrespect it...but regardless it should have been on the National News but the politically correct left wouldn't want to cause any problems with their voters...

    when I gaze at the general view of our president it reminds me of how much of Germany acted toward Hitler before and during the War...
    Yes Cass, the US flag upside down is a recognized distress signal...

    However, to have one nations flag above another, or share the same flagpole is disrespect.

    When flown with the national banner of other countries, each flag must be displayed from a separate pole of the same height. Each flag should be the same size. They should be raised and lowered simultaneously. The flag of one nation may not be displayed above that of another nation.http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html
    As I stated above...
    Round them all up, Check citizenship, and deport as many as possible...
    What would happen if we went to Mexico and had a similar demonstration disrespecting their flag?

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    We would get no tacos?

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