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Thread: Using DHW for spot/limited area radiant heat

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    Default Using DHW for spot/limited area radiant heat

    I recall reading somewhere about running the DHW supply in loops under a bathroom floor to act as a mini radiant system en-route to lavs, sinks, etc. In the article, the installer used it for small area floor warming, and it did not reduce the spout temp of the water adversely.

    We're completing roughs and wonder if anyone has has real world experience with this and can offer advice. We're not looking to heat the bathroom, just remove the chill from the key parts of the floor. Our DHW is being plumbed with tank, return and (hopefully) gravity feed--prefer no pump though maybe here it will be needed.

    I wonder if response time to heat the floor will be too long, and for these spot applications, to embed some electric under the tile and be done with it.

    Thanks for feedback or references to sources.

    --Mark

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    scratch-pad engineer and mechanical fabricator leejosepho's Avatar
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    Electric heating wire is what I have, and it works great! I once had the same idea you have read about, but about the biggest thing you might heat with the water running to a shower is a towel warmer. However, a recirc line with a small pump and a thermostat (sensor) in the floor would be relatively inexpensive to install, easy to maintain and quite effective without (as you already know) affecting water temp at the faucets.

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    You do not get anything for free. If the pipes are going to do any kind of effective heating, they WILL lose temperature in the process. As the area absorbs heat from the piping, the amount of heat lost will be reduced, but that will only occur once the floor is up to, or close to, temperature. It is an idea that is neither good for heating, nor ideal as far as the water temperature at the faucet is concerned. One thing you can be sure of, however, is that if the water is arriving at the sink with little loss of temperature, then it was doing a lousy job of heating the floor.

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    Of course someone has to throw in the obligatory Legionella concern, so I'll do the honors.
    Stagnant water at certain temps. (hot water line) can be a breeding ground for microbes such as Legionella. You have a recirculation system so I don't think you have much to concern yourself with.
    I just post cuz I like to see my avatar.

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    Your better off using a Water heater that has a built in coil for radiant heating with a recirculation pump. http://www.bradfordwhite.com/images/...eets/549-B.pdf

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