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    Here is an idea for any woman or man that wants to defend their self but doesn't like guns...are you ready....

    A can of wasp and hornet spray



    It will shoot 20-25 feet and if you spray someone in the face they won't be coming at you long...and if you flick a lighter after spraying them I guarantee they will run the other way....it works great and you can keep several cans in strategic places around the house...

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    Outlawing guns will not do much. They will just get them illegally.
    rgsgww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    What all human beings should have. We all are only one footstep away from being the next guy.

    emĚpaĚthy
    NOUN:

    1. Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motive.
    The difference is that they just gave up.
    It got tough and rather than keep on going in the rat race they climbed off the treadmill and into a box under the overpass.

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    To me, that is a very sad attitude Redwood. You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but I wonder if you ever worked with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    To me, that is a very sad attitude Redwood. You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but I wonder if you ever worked with them?
    Better than that, I know a few of them...

    In every case it involved it involved a series of bad choices culminating in giving up on themselves.

    Most involve drugs and alcohol abuse.
    Ending in a pity party in a box under the overpass.

    Cookie I know you are going to say addiction is a disease much like the Big C...
    Yes, it is a life threatening disease...

    But it is the only disease on the face of this earth that the successful treatment of the disease is dependent on the afflicted person deciding to obtain help. I'm not saying there is a 100% cure rate. But without the person deciding to seek help there is no cure. Quite often the help is only as far away as another room in the soup kitchen they went to for a meal or, in another room at the shelter where they went on that cold winter night.

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    I will tell you a little story Red.

    I was teaching I think it was third grade then . One little girl named, Anne, told me she wanted me to call her Cookie. I had asked her why? " Do you love Cookies? And, I tickled her. She told me that her dad always calls her Cookie. I told her that my daddy always called me Cookie, too.

    The next day this man came in with his daughter, Anne. I looked up from my desk when this little girl said, Cookie, this is my daddy.

    I looked up and this man was crying. He said, " do you know me" I looked and looked and I apologized saying that I didn't, but is their anything I can do for you?

    He told me, " You already did, I drank your coffee, I ate your turkeys and pies, I wore the clothes you gave me, and you gave me a job, you saved my life, Cookie." Then I knew who he was, he was my friend.

    I was driving into our city of a thousand bridges on a winter day when I spotted people huddled together in boxes I couldn't lift my foot from the brake when the light had changed. I knew I had to do something to help ease their pain.

    He was living under a bridge in a box.

    I started to collect blankets, winter clothes and boots, and take them to the people under the bridge. I became friends with them. I would take them hot coffee in empty milk jugs, Thanksgiving turkeys, the trimmings, a ham, pies, rolls, all kinds of food, all kinds of clothing.

    I got to be friends and found some jobs. He was one. He is now a tech in ex-ray at a hospital, he started off being a janitor. One is an teachers assistant at my school: another took a job, as a short order cook and now owns his own small restaurant; one is a LPN, another drives a school bus, all in all, I have over 50 friends, who now either rents, some bought their home.

    Anne's dad while sobbing told me, because of me, "he has a wife and a cookie of his own..."

    Red, just imagine if everyone cared more to make a difference in people's lives? I usually don't talk about this because I should be humble, but unless, I can tell you this, you might miss the opportunity to help someone in need. I was never afraid under the bridges.

    They are human beings with problems. We all need a friend.
    OH, I almost forgot he handed me 500 dollars that dayto help others living in a box under a bridge.
    We should be ashamed to want to sweep them away, when we have to much and not help. He is giving back. He was so grateful.
    I am so glad things worked out for him, and he has a family living in a nice warm home, and his Cookie is the best, he has a great kid.
    Imagine, what the world would had lost, if Anne was never born, she has so much to contribute to others. I have her picture in my album, along with her dad.

    Be kind, have empathy, it is not a dirty word...
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    Talking Empathy is good for everybody...

    cookie, I like your new Avatar much better.

    but it still needs something....

    like a beautiful lady sitting next to that shell in a thong bikinni... with long flowing blonde hair ,

    with a drink in one hand reaching out to me
    with a beautiful smile and an inviteing look on her face....

    yes thats it,,,,, the perfect avatar......
    now go get to work on it...
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    Empathy is a good thing....

    you are probably right , and honestly we are all really just one 7.0 earth quake away from living in tents this summer just like a lot of people in Italy are doing tonight...

    I really do have empathy for those who have had tragic events happen in their lives, and I would not wish troubles like that on a dog.....

    what I dont have is pity for the people that have basically fried their brains on drugs, alchol, ect.. and pissed on every opportunity that they ever had in their lives and expect me to feel sorry for them...

    and I have done many good deeds before for numerous
    employees over the years, and its never ended well..


    like paying $500 per semester
    for their plumbing classes to become journeymen plumbers
    only to see them quit cold turkey in the second semester.,
    thats gratitude,,,,
    ..
    or paying for their medicle benefits , only to see them steal me
    blind every chance they could.... thats gratitude....


    if you want to hear a really nasty story about my social
    attempts and good deeds to help others, ,
    send me a private e-mail.,

    it cant be repeated here
    because its an on-going drama
    (that is why I pack that gun)


    I suppose the question is
    where do you draw the line ??


    Where does compassion end and gullibility begin???





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    And, what exactly was wrong with that cute litte avatar of a cat? You need to explain.

    You can find pictures anywhere on the net of women OR men, wearing throngs, I can easily change your avatar into one for you if you want Mark.

    Just let me know.

    Tell us of your good deeds, you don't need to tell me privately. It might make some people rethink their opinions of people, more than just down on their luck. To inspire is a good thing...............................

    But there are people who just won't ever learn not to judge so harshly, or be so opinionated. For they were just born mean.

    If you got kids, what kind of a world do you want your kids live in and someday raise their kids in? How would you feel if your own kids become in dire straights, or develop an addition to something? Or became a piss poor employee? What would you do and who would you blame?

    This should be interesting.

    Do you really think you were the only person who ever got burned or bruised in life? For trying to help another? Don't you realize if 100 people took your money and ran that doesn't mean they will be the last but, their will be in your life time, hundreds, or even thousands who won't. That is life, Mark.
    Last edited by Cookie; 04-07-2009 at 08:39 PM.

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    Talking empathy

    Cookie....why would you want to change my avatar??

    I just was giveing you some ideas. on what I thought would
    be a neat one... .....please dont take it personal.....
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    anyway...back on the subject of Empathy......


    like the old song goes...

    Everyone plays the fool, their is no exception to the rule...


    You must learn from your mistakes,

    forgive others and dont be bitter about them....



    thats about all that really can be done....just forgive.....


    now going out and makeing the same mistakes over and over again


    their is an old saying about that too

    fool me once, shame on you ,
    fool me twice.....shame on me....




    I really cant mention what presently is going on
    with one of my failed social experiments.


    emapthy backfired on me big time.
    and its not over.


    if you really want the story, just e-mail me in private.

    take care


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    You completely lost me on all accounts.

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    Here is some gun control for ya...Our Irish president, O'Bama, went to visit a Muslim Mosk and removed his shoes in respect in order to tour the mosk...He then said that while we were a Nation of Christians, Jews, and Muslims we were not a Christian Nation...but a Nation of Citizens... This sounds like a statement right out of Communist China...I guess O'Bama knows nothing about the country being founded by Christians...

    O'Bama then was supposed to go meet with the French President and tour the beaches of Normandy where enemy guns ended the lives of countless numbers of Americans who gave their lives to free Europe...he decided not to go...I guess he didn't want to seem like a hypocrite because he had just spent many days apologizing to Europe for how bad America has been in the world and how we will now have to be a better nation...He had time for the Mosk but not for the men that gave their lives that we, and may in the World, might be free...


    I fear he is dragging this Nation into Marksism...My Children's children may never know the what the real USA once was....We may be witnessing the down fall of the Greatest Nation On Earth right before our very eyes...

    One thing Man never learns from History....is that Man never learns from History...

    The Jews in Germany saw what was coming but didn't think it was really what they thought...when they finally woke up it was to late...

    Wake up America.....before it is to late...
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    Talking be empathetic till it hurts....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    You completely lost me on all accounts.

    I am sorry that I lost you on all accounts....

    We are just different types of people,
    and I think you probably know what I mean,

    I just cant give till it hurts and bleeds......

    I can only feel sorry for others to a point,
    that is just the mean nasty cold German in me...

    after a certain point of helping others, their can come a a point
    where you are looked at as a gullible fool with rose colored glasses on
    an easy mark, to be preyed upon........

    that is what I try to guard against...
    knowing when to help and when to stay clear

    that is what I was trying to convey to you.



    I feel that you can be blinded by empathy if taken
    to the extreme.....you cant help the whole of humanity
    every day..... or you will have bread lines out your front door..




    cookie...
    also If you put up that new avatar,
    I promise that I will put up a new one too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cass View Post
    but a Nation of Citizens... This sounds like a statement right out of Communist China...I guess O'Bama knows nothing about the country being founded by Christians...
    It's sad, what i most liked about America is when you asked someone what nationalility they were they would proudly say "American".
    I thought that was great because when you ask someone here they say "Italian" or "Polish" but hey live in Canada.

    I guess from now on they should say "Christian-American" or "Jewish-American" so you can tell the difference.

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    Talking Its all a point of view.....

    I am not going to stir up this pot too much..

    When you get religion and patroitism mixed in together
    things can get a little squrilley... that is how things go crazy.


    I think we are a natioin of many religions and ethnic backgrounds.
    and I think that is good..and that is what makes us great..

    that is why everyone came over here to get away from persecution...



    Now, If you want a lively debate

    go ahead and Ask a Native American Indian what he
    thinks of us all being a "Christian nation" sometime....


    I think their responce probably would suprise you....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peanut9199 View Post
    It's sad, what i most liked about America is when you asked someone what nationality they were they would proudly say "American".
    I thought that was great because when you ask someone here they say "Italian" or "Polish" but hey live in Canada.

    I guess from now on they should say "Christian-American" or "Jewish-American" so you can tell the difference.

    Huh? Our nation was founded on Christianity, it just is. It is also a melting pot of peoples. Bone up on our country and you will see. Read about our history. I will even my hand on the bible and swear to it.

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