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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    And another chinese child will suffer brain damage from mercury poisoning.

    Not to mention our children should one of those death traps break on the inside of our house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwelectric View Post
    Why am I not surprised?????????????

    China is the only country that does not restrict the manufacturing process of these bulbs. They all are made in China so bare in mind that for every bulb you buy another American is starving to death because they can not find work.
    Come on Mike. This is a bit dramatic, don't you think?
    What things like are NOT made in China any more?

    Don't get me wrong, I go out of my way to buy quality items and buy American when I can. It's just this is becoming nearly impossible any more.
    What companies like Milwaukee go to China to make their tools it signals the beginning of the end. WHY the hell is it that no one wants to spend the money for quality??? Adjusted for inflation, many things are MUCH cheaper than they were 20-25 years ago. And this is NOT a good thing IMO.

    There are WAY less people like us, and WAY more that shop almost exclusively at that sh*thole walmart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
    You mean the same mercury that is in every flourescent bulb/tube including millions of work sites??
    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    Yeah really. Work sites, homes, offices, stores, ............

    There is entirely too much hype over these lamps.
    Quote Originally Posted by jwelectric View Post
    Not to mention our children should one of those death traps break on the inside of our house.
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    I also checked NVision & Sylvania CFL's
    Also made in China

    Sylvania is an American company
    NVision is out of Georgia
    Bright Effects is out of CA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
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    Mercury is incredibly toxic! Don't underestimate it ... I do not have fluorescent bulbs in my house either. Sure they don't break when then burn out, however, they easily break when they are hit or dropped. Where are the majority ending up when they expire? In the garbage of course ... most don't bother with recycling. The mercury is now out of batteries ... I suspect the technology exists. There are many who believe autism is related to mercury ... I'll stay with incandescent until they come up with an alternative material.

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    Rubbish, you can get more mercury from eating fish & tuna
    The power companies are pumping out Mercury into the environment
    Using less electricity means they are pumping out less Mercury
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
    Rubbish, you can get more mercury from eating fish & tuna
    The power companies are pumping out Mercury into the environment
    Using less electricity means they are pumping out less Mercury

    Rubbish or not check out what EPA has to say you are to do should one break. click here
    I think this will make you look at them a little differently if the fact that the only place they are made is in China isn't enough to make you take notice.

    Bottom line is they ain't worth the powder to blow them to h-----
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    What things like are NOT made in China any more?

    Don't get me wrong, I go out of my way to buy quality items and buy American when I can. It's just this is becoming nearly impossible any more.
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    A few months ago I read a book called " A year without Made in China". A family decided to live for a year without purchasing anything made in China. I bought the book with great anticipation that I would learn HOW to do that. The bottom line conclusion of the book was that you CANNOT reasonably do it. One example : she needed new sneakers for the 10 year old boy. After spending WEEKS shopping all over town, all over the internet, she did buy something online, from Sweden, for $70!
    She went all summer without a fan in the hot southern summer, because her fan broke, and there are no fans made in the US, and even a repairman said he could fix it, but the parts are from China.

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    Check out this link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
    Rubbish, you can get more mercury from eating fish & tuna
    The power companies are pumping out Mercury into the environment
    Using less electricity means they are pumping out less Mercury
    Bottom line is they reduce mercury being poured into the environment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
    Bottom line is they reduce mercury being poured into the environment
    Please explain how the utility company is "pouring mercury into the environment". Please attach a link or story too. Thanks.

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    Rubbish, you can get more mercury from eating fish & tuna
    Please show me the data Dave.

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    Coal contains a small amount of mercury and since half of our power (at least here in MN) comes from coal, you actually release less mercury over the average bulb lifetime by using a CFL compared to a regular light bulb. This is even true if the CFL is broken instead of being properly disposed of.

    For references see Kwh per coal plant emissions along with CFL energy savings over it's average life expectancy.

    To save even more buy a "cold cathode" CFL and use a motion sensor.

    FYI: There are a lot of other products that contain mercury. old Thermostats, florescent lights, Tilt sensors, ignitrons, ect...
    Important note Ė I donít know man made laws, just laws of physics
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99k View Post
    Please explain how the utility company is "pouring mercury into the environment". Please attach a link or story too. Thanks.
    Look it up, plenty of info on the web

    Or go to this site, it's been verified

    http://forums.treehugger.com/viewfor...bf990a6cfeede8
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