Kskier
Home Handyman
I am putting in some new 3" sche 40 drain pipe for a toilet, and I was told to use the purple primer before I glue the pieces together. Why do I need to do this, and do I apply the primer to both joints?
I was made purple so that inspectors could easily see that primer was used.
If you are not in the city or the county/code does not require it.
Don't use it. But only if you are not required to use it.
I know what the can says, but it will not let the pipe bond that good.
The cleaner does take off the pvc coating, but puts one of it's own on the pipe.
The two pipes will not bond that good if cleaner is used.
It is better to sand the ends to be glued.
Use 220 grit to sand the pipe with. Sand it only good enough to remove the shinny part or just enough to remove the glaze.
Cleaner is the biggest joke in the plumbing, when it comes to gluing pvc.
Travis
If you are not in the city or the county/code does not require it.
Don't use it. But only if you are not required to use it.
I know what the can says, but it will not let the pipe bond that good.
The cleaner does take off the pvc coating, but puts one of it's own on the pipe.
The two pipes will not bond that good if cleaner is used.
It is better to sand the ends to be glued.
Use 220 grit to sand the pipe with. Sand it only good enough to remove the shinny part or just enough to remove the glaze.
Cleaner is the biggest joke in the plumbing, when it comes to gluing pvc.
Travis
PVC glue with cleaner. This has always been a good argument at lunch time...lol
I will not use cleaner when I am gluing pvc.
The cleaner is supposed to take off the wax layer.. It might, but it leaves a thin film of the cleaner itself. Any time a pipe has cleaner on it, it will not let the glue bond with the pvc.
A simple test. Take 2 pieces of pipe and a coupling. One one piece use cleaner, and the other, no cleaner. Glue them together with the coupling.
Let it sit over night if you want. Put the pipe in a vice with the coupling free.
Use a pipe wrench on the opposite pipe, and turn. The side with the cleaner will be the one that turn. Every time.
I have had this discussion with lots of plumbers. In some cases, it is in there rules they have to use cleaner to be up to code.
When we have a service call, and we see they used cleaner. 9 out of 10 times, that piece of pipe will have some kind of tie or restraint on it.
I myself will not use cleaner.
Travis
There are some that swear by cleaner, and some that will never use it.
It just comes back to that particular persons experience with it.
In my opinion, cleaner is the worst thing you can use on pvc that is to be glued.
When there is high pressure on a pipe with cleaner, it will come apart.
A customer was running some air lines,125psi. They kept coming apart. He was using cleaner.
I told him to stop using cleaner and sand it, he did, and as not blown a line yet.
I am not saying not to do anything. The glaze still needs to be removed.
I am just saying sanding is far better than any cleaner out there.
Travis
That why I say. It comes down to that persons experiences with cleaner.
There are some that swear by cleaner, and some that will never use it.
It just comes back to that particular persons experience with it.
In my opinion, cleaner is the worst thing you can use on pvc that is to be glued.
When there is high pressure on a pipe with cleaner, it will come apart.
A customer was running some air lines,125psi. They kept coming apart. He was using cleaner.
I told him to stop using cleaner and sand it, he did, and as not blown a line yet.
I am not saying not to do anything. The glaze still needs to be removed.
I am just saying sanding is far better than any cleaner out there.
Travis
That why I say. It comes down to that persons experiences with cleaner.
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